1 Now that just makes me want to say, "Allahu Ahkbar", or something to that effect.

2 Three less thugs to worry about!!! no moment of silence on this end

3 FYI, I've started counting, at

Terrorist Death Watch

http://northshorejournal.org/index.php/terrorist-death-watch/

4 Chuck, nice link. earned a bookmark. It's refreshing to see enemy KIA instead of the daily MSN reports on our boys.

5  
 
Not to suggest otherwise, but is everyone who opposes American forces a terrorist?
 
 

6 LMFAO!

7 Liberal Christian:
Did you miss the part when the same people you don't want to label "terrorists" blow up kids playing football, people shopping in markets and coffee shops?
Don't worry this one only injured two civilians, let's not prematurely call them "terrorists"

8 Are they the same people? Weren't these ones targetting military convoys? If all they do is target the US military, are they still terrorists. Do they have to intentionally target civilians, or just the fact that a civilian was a casualty?
 


Disregard this incident, and answer the question. It's one of those yes or no type questions.  Or call me names, perhaps tell me I don't understand or I support the terrorists.  Whatever it takes to avoid answering it.
 
 

9 Of course they intentionally target Civilians:

BAGHDAD, Sept. 14 -- A suicide bomber blew himself up among a crowd of poor Shiite Muslim laborers waiting for work in Baghdad early Wednesday, the Interior Ministry said. News agencies cited police as saying at least 80 people were killed and more than 150 were injured.

Two Iraqi civilians were killed and another seven wounded when a parked car bomb exploded Tuesday at 11 a.m. in Kirkuk's northern industrial neighborhood, said Kirkuk's police chief Brig. Gen. Shirko Shakir Hakeem.


A suicide car bomber struck a Shia Muslim wedding party in Baghdad Tuesday, killing 10 people, in the latest outbreak of sectarian violence in Iraq.
Police said four children were among the dead. Twelve people were wounded.

February 1 - Ninety-nine Kurdish civilians are killed and 246 wounded when two suicide bombers detonate bombs at the offices of the main Kurdish political parties in Arbil.

April 24 - Fourteen Iraqi civilians are killed when insurgents fire mortars and rockets into a crowded market in Baghdad's Sadr City.

April 24 - A roadside bomb in al-Iskandariyya kills fourteen Iraqis traveling to Baghdad on a bus.

August 26 - A mortar attack on a mosque in Kufa kills twenty-seven Iraqis and wounds sixty-three.

March 10 - A suicide bomber strikes a Shi`a mosque during a funeral in Mosul, killing at least forty-seven and wounding more than 100.

May 1 - A car bomb kills at least twenty-five and wounds more than fifty at the funeral of Sayyid Talib Sayyid Wahhab, an official of the Kurdistan Democratic Party, in Tal Afar.

May 6 - A suicide car bomber kills fifty-eight Iraqi civilians and wounds 44 more at a vegetable market in the mostly Shi`a town of Suwayra.

May 23 - A suicide car bomber kills at least ten people and wounds thirty outside a Shi`a mosque in al-Mahmudiyya.

September 14-15 - More than one dozen car bombs and suicide bomb attacks in Shi`a neighborhoods of Baghdad killed nearly 200 people. Al-Qaeda in Iraq claimed responsibility for the attacks and declared "all-out war" on the Shi`a population.

These you could call a unintentionally hit on civilians, they killed a lot of children to attack American targets.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- A suicide bomber blew up a vehicle Wednesday near a U.S. military convoy and a large group of Iraqi children in Baghdad, killing 27 people, Iraqi police and hospital officials said.
Iraqi police said most of the dead were children.

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A car bomb exploded next to U.S. troops handing out candy and toys, killing 18 children and teenagers Wednesday. Parents heard the shattering explosion and raced out to the discover the worst — children's mangled, bloodied bodies strewn on the street.

By the way what makes you think the Military were the intended target? read the above and tell me they don't intentionally target civilians.

If they're not following the laws of war, by using civilian shields, targeting protected people including contractors, and civilians, then yes they're terrorists.

Anyone who is following the laws of warfare, and restricts his activity to killing U.S Military only, is not a terrorist, if they are an Iraqi national and not a foreign fighter

10 That answers my question then. Not all are terrorists. That's what we need to understand that not every single one of them is a terrorist and therefore we can not paint all Iraqis and, indeed, Muslims with the same brush. To believe that all Muslims are terrorists only serves to make the problem worse.
 


If a Christian carried out a terrorist act and someone said that that was a reflection of all Christians would be offensive. We know that just isn't true.
 


Certainly anyone who intentionally targets civilians or has a complete disregard for them should be punished. String 'em up by their thumbs if necessary. Sentencing a Jihadist to death doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. For them, death as a result of their act gives them what they want.

11 "Liberal Christian": kindly point out the passage in the post that said all Muslims are terrorists or shut your pie hole. I'm really, really sick of Lefty trolls lying about who they really are and pretending to be veterans or digruntled conservatives...or Christians.

12 Have you ever read the Quran? is Mohammed like Jesus?

13 And LC: if a Christian committed an act of terrorism because he was taught in Sunday school that God wants the heathens killed, then and only then would you have a valid point.

14 "Read the Quran" davec? I doubt this one has ever read the Bible.

15  
Oh. I am a Christian. Follow the teachings of Christ. Christian...Christ. You see the connection there?  I'm not a veteran nor am I a disgruntled conservative.  There was a time when I identified myself as a conservative.  Mostly, I do I feel I'm more of a progressive, of the non-secular variety.
 


How about you point out where I accused you have saying that all Muslims are terrorists, and we'll go from there. I don't recall saying it, and I reviewed what I said. Don't worry, I wouldn't expect an apology. davec and I had managed to have a mature and respectful exchange of thoughts. That, of course, could just not stand. Can't have any of that. 

16

Is anybody else wondering who the innocent bystanders were that were sitting around watching these assholes plant a roadside bomb??

 

I am no arms expert so maybe a 155mm round can cause a large radius of damage. Otherwise, two people sitting around watching guys planting a bomb that is just as likely to kill their countrymen as it is to kill some infidels are more complicit than innocent in my book.

17 Liberal Christian- If I m a soldier and you try to blow me up, you are my enemy. The people trying to kill our forces are the enemy. The left wing media likes to call them insurgents. I prefer to call them terrorists. Insurgents try to kill who they think are the enemy. If you blow up your own people you are not an insurgent, you are a terrorist. I will not call you names but instead try to break through to you people on the left. These terrorists find you and you ilk useful for their ends. That is why they are throwing parties now that the dems won. Please get a clue and try to think beyond the leftest box that says we are the bad guys.
 
 
 

18 You know LC, when they were planting the road side bomb, they weren't carrying signs which they planned on planting next to the bomb saying - civillians please avoid this area, this is meant only for military targets.

That constitutes terrorism.

"How about you point out where I accused you have saying that all Muslims are terrorists, and we'll go from there."

You implied it here in comment 10.
Not all are terrorists. That's what we need to understand that not
every single one of them is a terrorist and therefore we can not paint
all Iraqis and, indeed, Muslims with the same brush. To believe that
all Muslims are terrorists only serves to make the problem worse.

If you want to insist that you did not imply this and didn't technically accuse anyone of saying so, then why say so.

19 "Liberal Christian," you wrote: "To believe that all Muslims are terrorists only serves to make the problem worse." - perhaps Satan put scales over your eyes. I say to you again, point out where I wrote that all Muslims are terrorists or shut your pie hole.

 And Steve O. is right, it's incorrect to refer to those fighting our forces in Iraq and murdering civilians as "insurgents". By definition, "insurgents" enjoy the support of the civilian population. The terrorists operating in Iraq do not enjoy that support, perhaps the biggest reason for that being that they enjoy murdering the civilian population.

20 My favorite terrorist was a guy we had in the hospital at Abu Ghraib, he was later transferred to Camp Bucca. 

So this guy was planting a remote denotate IED along MSR Tampa. His wife called on his cell.  Iraqi cell phones are weird. An incoming call will cause your computer speakers to make a rythmic noise. Anyhow, the IED detontated and he lost both arms and both legs; above both elbows and both knees. But we saved him!

We called him 'Starfish' on the ward.

We were sensitive like that.

21 Let's just say that Iraqi's are sick of foreign people coming into their country adn trying to destabilize their country.

22 'Starfish' lol that's funny.

23 They sure wont be going to paridise like they think they are its a place of fire and brimestone and acertian fellow with horns and a pitchfork

24 "destabilize their country"
 
CLASSIC!

25 From goat humping to bomb making in one generation. To much to expect.

26 Liberal Chistian: You make me sick. You muslim asshole quit posing as a Christian. You ain't. You know it. I know it. No doubt many others have figured it out by now. Friggin camel jockey in disquise.

27

Wow , Where do I begin?     Terrorists , simply put , are brainwashed  into believeing things that are radical and extreme. They are slinking cowards who hide behind women and children , to do their fighting , or should I say "sucker punching"....AND whats worse, they do it in the name of GOD !!  What kind of GOD promotes torture , kidknaping and murder?! These "humans".... DONOT put a value on life. They cannot even be classified as animals ...even animals are more humane! Terrorists use our own system to hollor for their rights....what about the inocent , they murder...who the hell speaks for them?!! I DO NOT CARE about someones rites , who wants to kill me for being american or whatever!!   This war on terrorism will NOT be won on it's present course...I believe to fight fire with fire.....an eye for an eye!!   Anything less than that is a comprimise!!!!  ANYONE ,should be shot on sight if caught engaging  in such practices!!!! There is no such thing as a FAIR trial for coldblooded killers!! NOTHING will change these peoples minds!  When are we , in the civilized world going to quit talking , and take the bull by the horns?  Plus this country is too comprimsing and open to sugjestion! People are too worried about offending someone! MUSHBALLS!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!  Finish them ALL off on their own level.  Are we wiating for ANOTHER 9-11 to wake us up?!!!  When hunting a wolf ...you think like a wolf!......if we don't .....THEY WILL!

28

One last thought........I'am a advid hunter......I practice clean swift kills..and I do not humliate the animal take.  I have seen others kill deer  , much the way the terrorists have done to their prisoners! SOOOO SAD!!! A dull knife a sharp knife...whatever ....one just takes longer to get through.  I ask any of you , How many of you out there have seen a deer die in this way???? Sometimes crying through it's own blood!!  NOW , imagin your father , your mother ,  your son , your uncel ,  aunt , or whoever going through the same.......the helplessness!!!  The fear!!!..Believe me,... it is NOT quick!!!!...NOW , DO YOU ALL THINK THEY CARE ABOUT RITES????!!!!!   FAIR TRIALS!!!  Lets send them all to their Allah!   

29 Well said. How can we act civilized when dealing with those who aren't?

30 jonny17