January 16, 2007

INDC: Ok. One last, quick question: what do you think of Americans, and has that opinion changed over time?Wow.Mohammed: "I think we need the Americans. If they go out right now it's gonna be a disaster. And believe me, even if they get out of Fallujah, Washington itself will be a target."
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Posted by: BohicaTwentyTwo at January 16, 2007 10:57 AM (oC8nQ)
Posted by: greyrooster at January 16, 2007 12:39 PM (w+w6p)
Posted by: greyrooster at January 16, 2007 02:04 PM (w+w6p)
Posted by: tbone at January 16, 2007 04:39 PM (HGqHt)
Well then, it's time to get the hell out of Fallujah!
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 16, 2007 07:41 PM (6zYAC)
It's almost as if you'd been hunting for at least one Iraqi who would state GOP talking points, simply because you're unable to accept the fact that Iraq is a disaster, the Iraqis do not regard us as liberators, and they don't want us there.
Posted by: Paul at January 16, 2007 08:59 PM (LHlX0)
The 70% figure you cited is as ridiculous as your comment about assiagned talking points. Your entire comment is an assigned talking point. Is it any wonder leftists are reviled for being intellectually weak and unprincipled?
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 16, 2007 10:50 PM (abVz3)
Posted by: greyrooster at January 17, 2007 01:01 AM (w+w6p)
and went back to watch warrior nation on the Tv. I believe he feels
that Paul is to full of shit to deserve an answer.
Your son sure sounds whip-smart, Greyrooster. I mean, who needs research when we can get word from someone in between commercial break of a show called "Warrior Nation?" When's Hee Haw on?
Sorry, Jeff and Grey, but here's one of those ugly facts about to rear its ugly head.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/275.php?nid=&id=&pnt=275&lb=hmpg1
So now that I've supported my claim, I return to my unanswered question:
Why is it that one Iraqi named Mohammed is able to speak for all of his
country on your blog, whereas the 70+% of Iraqis who actively want us
to leave their country are completely disregarded?
Posted by: Paul at January 17, 2007 06:48 PM (7nbM3)
Only a leftist retard believes an internet link constitutes proof of anything, much less bogus figures about the mission to help Iraq. Only an incredibly retarded leftist would use worldpublicopinion.org to prove a point.
You ignorant little punks on the hate-America left don't know dick about the principles of debate.
Excuse me while I link to a site that proves Bushitler is responsible for 911.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 18, 2007 02:10 AM (abVz3)
of anything, much less bogus figures about the mission to help Iraq.
Curious, isn't it, that you routinely link to online material that appears to support your point, but can't tolerate having it done to support opposing points. Again, it's not supporting links that you object to, but what those links say. You don't like the truth, you can't refute it, and are therefore forced to stick your head in the sand.
Of course, since you've proven your inability to refute points on several threads on your blog, your only defense is ad hominem and attacking the messenger, regardless of who that messenger might be. Having seen this tactic at work all my life (although most of us abandoned it when we got into high school), I am fully familiar with what it means: "With my fingers in my ears, I can't heeeear youuuu!"
I leave you with this parting thought: since you know that your point of view cannot stand up to scrutiny, and since you also seem to grasp that we live in troubled times with high stakes for failure, the fact that you are so incurious and immature that you refuse to actually scrutinize your point of view and figure out one that fits in with the rest of the reality is truly deplorable. You have placed a higher value on appearing right all the time over trying to help determine the most beneficial course for our country. I know you can't admit to any of this, but you know it nonetheless. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Posted by: Paul at January 18, 2007 02:20 PM (DCYnK)
I have never linked to anything on this site.
70% of America wants to flee Iraq immediately--in your wet dreams.
Your pathetic attempts at misdirection don't work on men.
Sorry bitch. Better luck next time.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 19, 2007 12:10 AM (abVz3)
I'm sorry, I really thought you ran this blog and were responsible for the "reports from Iraq" videos and stuff like that. I realize, however, that your opinions could never gain substantiation from the outside world. What was I thinking?
70% of America wants to flee Iraq immediately--in your wet dreams.
Let me help you out there, buddy. What I said was 70+% of Iraqis want us to leave. That figure may actually only be in the high 60s, but the point remains.
What I said about Americans is that a majority (56%) want us out of there either immediately or within a year. I don't make this shit up.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/polls/tables/live/2007-01-15-poll1.htm
(I know, you hate links. But other people reading might want to educate themselves.)
Anyhow, the uncontested facts on this page are that 1) a majority of Iraqis want us to leave; 2) a majority of Americans want us out of Iraq; and 3) the fact that this blog focuses on the comments of one single Iraqi, to the exclusion of the majority, is an obvious example of cherry picking to try to prove a point.
Thank you for your time.
Posted by: Paul at January 19, 2007 01:17 AM (CuLcx)
Anyhow, the uncontested facts on this page are that 1) a majority of Iraqis want us to stay until they're ready to handle things on their own; 2) a majority of Americans do not want to cut n' run from Iraq; 3) you have no penis; and 4) the fact that this blog feautured a single story that quoted a real, live Iraqi instead of citing innacurate and uncorroborated polls, is an obvious example of honesty over attempted sophistry.
Most importantly, people cite polls when they have no argument.
Thank you for your time. Don't forget to pick up your consolation prize on your way out.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 19, 2007 03:54 PM (abVz3)
Remember: a link is not proof of anything but your own stupidity. Worldpublicopinion, Wikipedia and USA Today are about as reliable as you are--which is to say, not at all.
There's a reason I don't link to sites that corroborate what I write. I'm able to present my own argument--something you will never be able to do.
Stick to pasting rigged polls and America-last blather from moonbat blogs. It's very educational, though not in the way you intended. You provide a perfect example of the intellectually weak and unprincipled left. Thanks for allowing me to goad you into exposing the bankruptcy of your movement's ideology. You were quite easy to manipulate.
P.S. The terrorists are still saying that they will transmogrify Iraq into a dystopian staging ground for worldwide terrorism if America flees from the scene.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 19, 2007 04:07 PM (abVz3)
Or rather, do you do like the other people on this site do (those over the age of 12), read your comments and feel a mild case of embarrassment?
Seriously, I'd love to understand the mindset behind such nonsense. Do you clearly understand that it's nonsense, but also accept that it's the best you can do? Or do you mistake your comments for some kind of demented brilliance?
Posted by: Paul at January 19, 2007 04:09 PM (jHh4c)
You really are a self loathing masochist, aren't you? Everybody here is laughing at you and your dickless antics. I'm sure a chronic dork like you is used to it. Dance some more, monkey. Dance! I pull your strings, and you never fail to flail away. You just cant help yourself. As a typical leftist automaton, you can only react. You'll never be capable of an original thought. Loser!
Thanks for allowing me to goad you into exposing the bankruptcy of your movement's ideology. You were quite easy to manipulate. All leftoids are.
On a personal level, I've never had an easier time spanking a dumb-ass like you in my entire life. There are retards, and then there are RETARDS. You top the list. Your pathetic attempts at misdirection have availed you naught. The terrorists are still saying that they will transmogrify Iraq into a dystopian staging ground for worldwide terrorism if America flees from the scene. President Bush is still opposing them, with staggering success.
And there's not a GOD damned thing you can do about it. Pissant.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at January 20, 2007 12:44 AM (abVz3)
As for the tv hit "Warrior Nation". Sissy punks like you would never understand the benefits of the martial arts. Scott is interested in the program because he used to compete in extreme fighting. The Marine Corps refused to allow him to continue his sport because of the Iraqi police action. His record is 8 wins and 0 loses. When he gets tired of fishing I expect him to start training again. It is amusing to me that a coward such as you would even comment on fighting. But piss ants like yourself always run their mouths when they THINK they cannot be reached. Now go change you panties. Faggot.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 21, 2007 10:52 PM (w+w6p)
The reason why the Americans cannot be victorious over the insurgency in Iraq is because the Iraqi insurgency are at home, whereas the Americans are in a foreign country. Eventually, the Americans will leave (even if it's after 100 years), and the insurgency will remain.
To illustrate this point, let's look at this blog. I'm like the Americans, and you lot are like the Iraqi insurgency. While I have won pretty much all the battles I have engaged in here, adequately defending my own point while dismantling others (as well as doing so with a level of maturity you guys can't even get your heads around), you folks will always have the last word. Because, while you guys reside here (for whatever reason I can only imagine), I don't.
Therefore, regardless of how I dismantle your points with superior arguments, and make some of you like poor Jeff look incredibly immature, in the end, you guys will be standing here beating your chests like Baghdad Bob, claiming the Mother of All Victories in jawdropping defiance of a page full of facts directly above. At that point, just like the Iraqis, you will be left with nothing but your own bad ideas.
You don't believe me? Watch the next few posts. I predict they will be entirely devoid of substance, rely wholly on ad hominems, and communicated in a way that most kids over the age of 14 would find embarrassing.
Compare this to what's likely to happen the day after the last US troops leave Iraq.
Posted by: Paul at January 30, 2007 08:14 PM (GRUFb)
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