October 25, 2006
Calling Bullsh*t Bullsh*t
A must read over at Michael Fumento’s blog:
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Most rear-echelon reporters seem to have studied the same handbook, perhaps The Dummies’ Guide to Faux Bravado. It usually begins with the horrific entry into Baghdad International Airport. Time’s Baghdad bureau chief, Aparisim Ghosh, in an August 2006 cover story, devotes five long paragraphs to the alleged horror of landing there.
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Posted by: mrclark at October 25, 2006 12:50 PM (FmB4F)
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I have been in a C-130 when they did what is called a combat turn. It is a sharp bank, and you drop altitude fast. I thought it was fun. We were refueling Harriers in Fallon for Top Gun. I was a passenger just along for the excitement. Unfortunately we had to remain on station so long, we did not have enough fuel ourselves to do the zero g touch and goes.
It is possible this pussy was in a C-130 when they did the combat turn which is also called braking when you come in over the base and make a quick tight turn to drop airspeed quickly. This would make sense as I am sure an approach the like you get at an airport with the exception of LaGuardia or John Wayne, is usually pretty tepid in comparison.
Those of you who have flown in and out of JW and LG know what I am talking about.
It is possible this pussy was in a C-130 when they did the combat turn which is also called braking when you come in over the base and make a quick tight turn to drop airspeed quickly. This would make sense as I am sure an approach the like you get at an airport with the exception of LaGuardia or John Wayne, is usually pretty tepid in comparison.
Those of you who have flown in and out of JW and LG know what I am talking about.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 25, 2006 07:51 PM (n4VvM)
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I landed in BIAP six or seven times, landed at the IZ in a blackhawk a few times. Let me say a few things:
IInto BIAP, it is a combat landing; a corkscrew type thing that is harrowing to some. As a passenger you can't see squat but you definitely know you are banking. The landing is not expecially harsh. And once you realize that its a corkscrew landing to minimize your time over bad-guy-land and to offer them something other than a straight heat signature to put thier missiles on...well, you start concentrating on more pressing matters like, say, your bladder pressing on your eyeballs. Maybe its different for reporters but for soldiers, flights are nap time. And I will say that I have slept through 2 of these 'terrifying' combat landings.
In the early days of the war, regulation required a four vehicle armed convoy to travel from Camp Victory to BIAP, its about a half hour drive now, due mainly to various checkpoints and speed traps, and you can make it in soft-sided vehicles. (Thats right folks, it is so dangerous we have traffic cops patrolling the road to BIAP!!)
Landing the IZ by Blackhawk is the most fun I had in Iraq. The pilots...I'm jealous...they fly low and fast, weaving in and out of the buildings. Awesome.
I can't remember what they changed the name to, but Route Irish is called something else now. Changed it about 6-8 months ago.
IInto BIAP, it is a combat landing; a corkscrew type thing that is harrowing to some. As a passenger you can't see squat but you definitely know you are banking. The landing is not expecially harsh. And once you realize that its a corkscrew landing to minimize your time over bad-guy-land and to offer them something other than a straight heat signature to put thier missiles on...well, you start concentrating on more pressing matters like, say, your bladder pressing on your eyeballs. Maybe its different for reporters but for soldiers, flights are nap time. And I will say that I have slept through 2 of these 'terrifying' combat landings.
In the early days of the war, regulation required a four vehicle armed convoy to travel from Camp Victory to BIAP, its about a half hour drive now, due mainly to various checkpoints and speed traps, and you can make it in soft-sided vehicles. (Thats right folks, it is so dangerous we have traffic cops patrolling the road to BIAP!!)
Landing the IZ by Blackhawk is the most fun I had in Iraq. The pilots...I'm jealous...they fly low and fast, weaving in and out of the buildings. Awesome.
I can't remember what they changed the name to, but Route Irish is called something else now. Changed it about 6-8 months ago.
Posted by: y7 at October 26, 2006 07:00 AM (yYph9)
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Seemonk: Was that Fallon, Nevada near Reno? I used to do touch and goes in P-3 Orions there. Or should I say they did. I was there to train the crew in ECM.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 27, 2006 01:13 AM (eqF9P)
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Fallon NV, they have actually improved it quite a bit now that Top Gun runs out of there.
Only the Navy has an airbase in the high desert and a sub base in a land locked lake.
Only the Navy has an airbase in the high desert and a sub base in a land locked lake.
Posted by: SeeMonk at October 27, 2006 10:39 AM (7teJ9)
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They closed the recruit training bases in Orlando, Fla and San Diego, Calif. and kept the one in Chicago open???????????? Real incentive for recruits to join.
Posted by: Greyrooster at October 28, 2006 07:14 PM (Sc2TP)
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