He was visiting Kish Island, an Iranian resort and free-trade zone off the southwest coast that does not require a visa to visit. He had traveled to Iran from the United Arab Emirates, U.S. officials said.
So he wasn't necessarily traveling in Iran proper. Here's what they say he was doing there:
The State Department said Levinson was going to meet someone to set up an interview or interviews for a project involving a book and a documentary by an independent producer and author believed to be from Canada, U.S. officials said. He was doing legwork for what a senior U.S. official described as an "innocuous" project that "had no connection with anything political." The official added: "The guy was on a perfectly harmless private activity." But he also may have been doing some work for his own consulting business, U.S. officials said.
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Here is a local news site that includes a picture:
http://www.nbc6.net/news/11511832/detail.html
Posted by: Vicki at April 03, 2007 04:32 PM (KNd6y)
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I am under the impression that there is an agent of Mullahcracy in Central Canada who pretends to be an independent Iranian film maker. I hope this American fellow did not fall foul of the likes of him.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 03, 2007 05:17 PM (j97MF)
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I remember reading somewere another IRGC leader that was supposed to be visiting a Naval Base in SE Iran that just up and disapeared, never showed up. It was a small blip don't remember much if any follow up short speculation it was another defection since his familiy was with him and also never showed up.
Could be this American business guy was either part of that OP (in which case I would say him hanging out afterwards was somewere between retarted and insane), OR could be that that the Iranians after the fact drew a map and blanket arrested all any westerners in the area.
Who knows?
Posted by: C-Low at April 03, 2007 05:38 PM (esMSg)
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C-Low, The only defection from the Mullahcracy in the Persian Gulf area that I'm aware of was that of the Chief Consulate of the Islamic Republic in Dubai who defected to Sweden along with his entire family a few years ago.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 03, 2007 07:16 PM (j97MF)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 03, 2007 10:09 PM (iJS2A)
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Robert Levinson is no typical ex-FBI type; he's one of the world's top experts on money laundering and the Russian mafia. His disappearance—on the site of the future Iranian Petroleum Bourse—is very troubling. But, for what it's worth, Iran's PRESSTV is now reporting that he's not missing, merely detained by security forces, and will be released in a couple of days: http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/2007/04/bob_levinson_no.html (Keep scrolling down for more on Levinson.)
Posted by: Rodger Morrow at April 04, 2007 12:20 AM (TOVRn)
"I urge the German people to help me in my difficult situation," said Krause, according to an Arabic translation of her comments, only part of which could be heard.
"Germany was safe before it got involved in this satanic coalition with America against what they call terrorism," said Krause, shown sitting on the ground next to her son.
A militant speaking on the video but out of sight said: "We are giving the German government another 10 days to begin withdrawing its troops from Afghanistan or we shall kill this criminal woman and her son who works in the Foreign Ministry of the government of (Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-) Maliki".
DUBAI, April 3 (Reuters) - An Iraqi group holding a German woman and her son hostage said it was giving Germany 10 days to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan, according to a statement posted on the Internet on Tuesday.
The Arrows of Righteousness group also posted a video showing Hannelore Marianne Krause urging Germany to heed the demands of the militants. The group had issued its first ultimatum on March 10, saying it would kill the pair if Berlin failed to pull out its troops in 10 days.
Posted by: JeepThang at April 03, 2007 12:42 AM (yZQoS)
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The kidnappers clearly want money. Germany will pay the ransom to free the hostages. It could take a few months though. I'm sure the hostages know that they have a chance at freedom.
Posted by: George Ramos at April 03, 2007 08:36 AM (TmLg9)
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Subjecting people to sorrow, hardship, pain and suffering is how the Mo-slime politics work. And with mo-slimes, everything is politics!
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at April 03, 2007 09:59 AM (j97MF)
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The link to Laura's transcript is from the previous video released. I added it by mistake. Updated to reflect that. My apologies.
Posted by: Howie at April 03, 2007 11:09 AM (YHZAl)
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wb: must be at waffle house today. They have weird hrs.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 03, 2007 10:52 PM (iJS2A)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2007 09:22 PM (9nRcM)
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And just what the hell are they confessing to. Are all of them navigators? All of them steering the ship? Catching pigfish?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2007 09:23 PM (9nRcM)
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These "soldiers" had sophisticated navigation equipment that is fully capable of keeping them where they are supposed to be. They were intercepting a vessel on a predictable course to inspect it and under the command of an even more sophisticated ship that tracked them carefully.
They knew where they were. Would they really have entered Iran without being prepared? And how did Iran know they were going to enter Iran? They must have planned this ambush out very carefully, am I to believe that the Brits really entered coincidentally at this time (and at the time that the Iranian president just happened to make world-wide news for his UN inbroglio?
Also, we know the Iranians are not honest about anything. They said they had to nuclear program, then they announced that they did. They lied about the holocaust, and they routinely mistreated their prisoners in 1979. not to mention, many Iranians hate the British more than they hate the USA.
Anyone who believes that these sailors were not coerced into saying what they are saying -knowing how unlikely it is that the Brits did this and knowing how ruthless the Iranians are being right now in Iraq- is a fool.
I don't know if they were tortured or drugged or starved. I have no idea waht kind of threats are being made to them. We will find out. I wish these sailors would find a way to show the world that they were under duress, because sadly many people are actually buying this crap. Look at the Pueblo, and how those tortured souls managed only subtle signs of duress. It's harder than it seems in the imagination.
Anyway, we obviously can never negotiate with Iran. They are violating their geneva treaty obligations writ large, and we'd be a fool to bother with any other treaties or payoffs. They will break their end, every time.
Posted by: Dustin at April 02, 2007 11:23 PM (vrIec)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2007 11:23 PM (9nRcM)
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I don't know what the British military code provides, but basically
every country has a "name, rank, serial number, birthday" limit one
what POWs are to say. Cooperating with the enemy, and participation in
their propaganda is disgusting, cowardly, and disgraceful. If you aren't willing to at least take a beating before laughing it up on camera, you deserve one hell of beating when you come home.
The only one of the troops who should be doing any talking would be the ranking officer. Every other member who appeared on one of these videos should be courtmartialed and jailed for several years. Especially the cunt. The death penalty - for treason - should be an available option at the courtmartial.
If the British aren't willing to step up and show some backbone, I have no use for that nation of limpwristed limeys.
Posted by: wooga at April 02, 2007 11:28 PM (2YapR)
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"If you aren't willing to at least take a beating" Well I do know you can torture someone and cover the marks with clothing, and you can also gain a measure of compliance with drugs. Additionally, drugged victims may exibit inappropriate emotion, such as laughing, when under stress. Further, any decent villain will threaten the well being of others in the team, to try and coerce the response they desire. Likely they are kept seperate from each other when not on camera, to add to thier stress, and reduce thier co-operative resistence. So I'm going to believe they are doing thier best.
Everyone has a weak spot, and we don't know what they were subjected to. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 03, 2007 12:49 AM (2OHpj)
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No offense, but it's easy to talk tough about 'resistance' when your not there. This isn't a 'chickenhawk' attack. I'm saying you don't know where your own breaking point is, unless you have been driven to it. Anyone who hasn't experieced it, can really know what it is like. There are people who are experts in getting you to that point. If you survive it once, it can make you stronger the next time, or it can break you for good. Each according to thier ability.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 03, 2007 12:57 AM (2OHpj)
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If it turns out they were drugged up (which is entirely plausible), then they could be let off the hook. I'd gladly eat crow in that situation. It just doesn't look to me like they are on anything, and no matter how cleverly the Iranians edit the footage, the POWs are still cooperating way too much.
If they weren't willing to make the sacrifice, they should not have entered the military. Being a marine means you may die. There is no room in the marines for someone who puts their own hide above their country. The claims that there was "a gun off camera" means nothing to me - a gun should not be enough to get a marine to betray his country.
We have men like McCain who suffered years of torture as a POW, and still refused to join in enemy propaganda films. These limeys broke in a matter of hours!
Posted by: wooga at April 03, 2007 02:10 AM (2YapR)
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I'm sympathetic Wooga, I just feel if we don't know the circumstances, it would be polite to extend them the beneift of the doubt. McCain's story is one of the reasons I cut him so much slack regarding the details of his politics. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 03, 2007 02:23 AM (2OHpj)
Now I'm thinking of that 'Bond' flick, wasn't it "Die Another Day!"? Admittedly, 'Bond' is sort of a superhero, but we still expect our troops to hold out, like in the movies. I know it does happen, and the real heroes can't just go to thier trailer after the 'torture' is concluded. I wish we could just blast the Mullahs to pieces and move on. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 03, 2007 02:28 AM (2OHpj)
(Mashallah, an auto-parts trader who spent seven years in prison after his involvement in leftist activities at the beginning of the 1979 Iranian Revolution, says he can guess what the 15 British marines and sailors may be experiencing.
"This government is expert at psychological pressure," he says, analyzing the performance of the British detainees who have been seen here on videotapes released to the media.
"They may have put them in isolation for two days before their first confession and told them that if you don't apologize, Britain and Iran may go to war," he speculates.)
Derb said it perfectly: The only coherent response I get to these sentiments is: "How do you
know what they've been through? How would YOU stand up?" To which the
obvious reply is the one Dr. Johnson gave in some similar case: "I may
criticize a carpenter who makes me a bad table, though I cannot make a
table myself. It is not my job to make tables." It is the job of a
Royal Marine to fight, and if necessary suffer and die, for his
country. They know that when they go in. It's what they are told!
I nurse a quiet hope that if put to the test, I would stand up as well
as any Marine. Whether or not I would, however, is irrelevant. Whether
or not I could stand up well to torture, I expect Marines to.
Posted by: wooga at April 03, 2007 12:34 PM (t9sT5)
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"I expect Marines to" As do I. We do agree on quite a bit here, I'm just not ready to say they are wusies, yet. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 03, 2007 07:17 PM (2OHpj)
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On an prior post I mentioned the female hostage and the difference between her prior video and her "confession". It is sad to see that the Brits have to stick up for their hostages by explaining they don't mean what they say. This is an evil enemy we are dealing with and we don't look so good in the present time. Granted safety is the upmost concern for the hostages but Gaad can't we do something right for a change. Israel still hasn't gotten their hostages back and you know Iran/Syria was behind that. I would love to be a fly on the wall in the bowels of special ops but am afraid of what I would hear. If 1979 didn't teach us anything, nothing will......time to go electricute acnejad.......Cox & Forkum thank you for your interactive cartoon!.........
Posted by: allahakchew at April 02, 2007 03:28 PM (BrndJ)
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I have read it elsewhere, and I'm not sure of the origional source, but it might be worth interpreting ... "Rome has no hostages."
So ? Meaning? USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at April 02, 2007 08:53 PM (2OHpj)
An Inconvenient Geneva Convention
The endless liberal passion play continues unabated:
RELEASE THE PRISONERS!! FULL RIGHTS!! US CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS FOR ENEMY COMBATANTS FROM ANY COUNTRY! IMPEACH THE LEADERSHIP! FREE THE DETAINEES!! DOWN WITH AMERI...huh?
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Of course they are! The Geneva Convention requires that POW's be protected from public curiosity, like parading them on Mullahcracy's Arabic language propaganda TV network.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at March 29, 2007 01:37 PM (j97MF)
Except for lucky shots, the Iranian military can't stop devestating retaliation. I'd say an object lesson would be a good thing. I do pray for the kidnapped Brits. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 30, 2007 04:55 AM (2OHpj)
These are the 5 contractors employed by Crescent Security Group who were kidnapped near Basra in November 2006, as seen in a hostage video released in January of this year. There has been no word on them since. But now there is new hope that their ordeal may be ending soon.
As I wrote in December 2006, a Minnesota businessman, Mark Koscielski, who is a friend of Paul Reuben, has been raising money to pay the $150,000 ransom demanded for the 4 Americans and 1 Austrian. Thousands of people have bought t-shirts and donated to the ransom fund. On Friday, Mark will arrive in Kuwait in hopes of paying the ransom and bringing the captives home.
I spoke with Mark earlier this week about his planned trip. He is optimistic about his chances of winning freedom for the contractors, who were abducted when their convoy was hijacked at a fake checkpoint. He says the kidnapping was not politically motivated, but a simple extortion scheme. He stresses that he has no ties to the American or Austrian governments, and that he is acting on behalf of the families who have waited for 5 months to have their loved ones return.
While some may question the wisdom of paying ransom to extortionists, let's pray for the success of this mission. It would be wonderful to see them home for Easter. Please remember Mark and the 5 men in your prayers, especially on Friday.
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It would be more wonderful if the Brits had more men on the ground and could find them, in the same way that Roy Hallums was found. Or if more of the Shia police in the area would do their job.
But, here's hoping for their release. Soon.
Posted by: Rusty at March 29, 2007 09:36 AM (JQjhA)
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I hope he gets his guys back, but $150,000 does buy a lot of 7.62mmx39mm.
Posted by: Spade at March 29, 2007 09:59 AM (MwlDS)
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Lets hope for theie release however it maybe done.
Posted by: allahahachew at March 29, 2007 10:03 AM (BrndJ)
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Everyone pays ransom these days, even the British so I don't care what the guy does as long as they are freed. Remember, Roy Hallums was kept for TEN MONTHS, so I have no doubt that they and Hamas captive Gilad Shalit are alive.
Posted by: George Ramos at March 29, 2007 11:45 AM (TmLg9)
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Also, rescue is impossible. You can tell in the video that they are held separately. If one of the hostages is rescued, the other four would be immediately killed. Ransom is the only way to free the men.
Posted by: George Ramos at March 29, 2007 11:59 AM (TmLg9)
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Paying ransoms only encourages more kidnappings. I'm sorry, but as much as I would also like to see these guys freed... we cannot pay the ransom. There should be no negotiating with terrorists.
Posted by: Frank at March 29, 2007 12:53 PM (WGcw3)
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I love the Iranians! Here they go, teaching us Infidels the proper way to humiliate women. It's all about fashion, the girls just love fashionable, humiliating garb. Notice how fast the girls go for this? Anything to catch that real man who lives just behind his moustache or if he's even more a man...his beard! Muslim men sure do have balls! They define the very meaning of what it is to be a man! Allah loves them so much he cranks out (from somewhere) special virgins for special men! We westerners have got to get some of this religious truth into our local communities. I can't wait to see the dvd of Iranian girls gone wild!
Posted by: RJ at March 29, 2007 07:17 AM (yyxO/)
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If I'm not mistaken, the fabric in the bottom pic is called "Remembering Yasser." Hopefully Britain will do more than talk tough.
Posted by: orlando at March 29, 2007 09:50 AM (gjTlx)
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The palistinian headscarf sucks.How noble of a cause as they are using. Like I said before, I don't believe she will be released. We havn't gone after them wih any ba**s and they expect the same. Until we show true difiance we are doomed We have a bunch of dems in congress and guess what? Let's talk..;;;not....What happened in our world where the hippies have taken control. What ia wrong with us that we have allowed control to these peiople. We should be ashamed. Now is the time to act, do something, anything to stop these socialists.
Posted by: allahahachew at March 29, 2007 09:58 AM (BrndJ)
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She is one of my fellow countrymen/women?, why did she she agree to wear that fucking rag on her head? In fact how did they ever let themselves get captured? I hope it escalates big time, we are about to renew our trident arsenal, maybe we should put the warheads we already own to some use before their sell by date. Really, we all know sooner or later the Xerxes descendants will have to be dealt with, no fucking time like the present, dont put off what we can do today until tomorrow. All this waiting for something to happen is a joke, why we let ourselves continue to be threatened is a disgrace. The persians and the jihadis only respond to force so lets show them some in the form of blinding flashes of light and waves of million degree heat. I for one would not lose one seconds sleep if all of our enemies happened to dissapear from the face of the earth. Fuck Em !!
Posted by: dave clarke at March 29, 2007 01:20 PM (gZg8j)
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Is it me, or was one of the troops gulping down his food as if he had been starved ?
Posted by: busywwolf at March 29, 2007 08:44 PM (H2bJ9)
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I thought muslims always ate with the right hand and wiped their asses with the left.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 02, 2007 10:45 PM (9nRcM)
Gulf Of Tonkin My Ass
Hey, Rosie, Archduke Ferdinand, Google it.
TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - Iran's foreign minister said Wednesday that Britain must admit that its 15 sailors and marines entered Iranian waters in order to resolve a standoff over their capture by Iranian authorities.
Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki's announcement came on a day of escalating tensions, highlighted by an Iranian video of the detained Britons that showed the only woman captive saying her group had "trespassed" in Iranian waters. Britain angrily denounced the video as unacceptable and froze most dealings with the mideast nation.
"First they have to admit that they have made a mistake. Admitting the mistake will facilitate a solution to the problem," Mottaki told The Associated Press in an interview in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. "But unfortunately the British have not admitted their mistake."
Mottaki also backed off a prediction that the female sailor, Faye Turney, could be freed Wednesday or Thursday, but said Tehran agreed to allow British officials to meet with service personnel.
Exit question: While everyone is focused on this crisis, what is Iran doing that's off the radar, so to speak? I smell....diversion.
Posted by: Dick at March 28, 2007 07:22 PM (XlQVK)
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Eliminate their "Navy." Then demand the release. That should take about an hour.
There has to be something else going on here. When this began I was lulled into the belief they would be home in a couple days and that this would just fade like the last incident. I'm wondering now if that lull was caused by Iran's endless bs, or the acknowledgement that the allies are weak and incapable/unwilling of responding. Regardless, this is strange for what could have been a qwik oops moment.
Posted by: sunny at March 28, 2007 07:28 PM (W7GJ8)
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It is an example of how off kilter Iran is with PR. The media wants to help, but Mahmoud Ahmadinejad just keeps stepping in it.
Posted by: Rich at March 28, 2007 07:33 PM (Rgvrx)
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Wrong! The answer is: Making a hell of a lot more money on the jump in oil prices. Iran needs the money, they are in default with the Russians on their nuke program. They expect to make some money and back down in a "gesture of goodwill" at the last minute. Bye, Bye!
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 28, 2007 07:46 PM (YHZAl)
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Time to rid the earth of Iranian idiots. Wipe their military capability off the face of the earth.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 28, 2007 08:06 PM (LXuMj)
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It just proves how successful Iran's test run against Israel was last year. Hezbollah kidnaps some soldiers, goads Israel into a War they have no will to win, and score a huge p.r victory courtesy of their buddies in the MSM by simply surviving.
Posted by: A.C #1 at March 28, 2007 08:10 PM (XE/nT)
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We haven't gone nuclear on anybody in years. Come on! It'll be fun!
Posted by: dick at March 28, 2007 09:45 PM (UGmeS)
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McCain had the best idea in his interview with Hugh Hewitt:
Iran only has one gasoline refinery. Bomb it. Then, blockade their ports - they have no possible naval response because our naval su-premicy is total - and within a month every single person in Iran will be walking, riding a bike, or driving an oxcart.
That would include Ahmadingleberry.
Posted by: Hucbald at March 28, 2007 09:58 PM (5HcjW)
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Hostage taking is a millennia-old Middle East strategy that persists because it’s effective in disabling an enemy. The hostages will probably be well-treated (the Muslim hospitality thing), but the coming week is critical, because an immobilizing standoff quickly becomes a status quo, difficult to change, politically, diplomatically, and militarily. Historically, such hostages were held for years, and released after hostilities, with a ransom. This happened in Tehran in 1979, when Muslim fundamentalists overthrew the government, and sponsored ‘students’ to take dozens of US hostages. Jimmy Carter reacted slowly, became immobilized, lost the next election because of it, and Reagan, assuming power, quickly combined posturing, a no revenge policy, and a secret ransom to get them released in 1981. I was struck by the low morale in a US visit in 1980, they were chastened by Vietnam, and defeated by Iran. It took years and a new president to recover. The opportunity in this crisis is to confront it immediately, steadfastly, with planned, escalating steps, a three-day deadline, calling all allies to publicly condemn, emergency meetings of UN security council and NATO, sending aircraft carrier group to Gulf, call for all corporations trading within UK to cease all Iranian contracts, including Shell, Daimler-Benz, and the dozens more that stunningly, continue their Iranian businesses, or face sanctions/fines. In the Islamist vs democracy war, the allies are winning, but not without unremitting pressure, over decades, if necessary. Final steps include 12 GPS bombs dropped 100 feet from Assad’s (Syria) bedroom, insisting that he abdicate within 24 hours, and finally, abandon hope of retrieving hostages, use GPS bombs on Iran’s leaders homes, no ransom, ever. Militarily, Persians (Iranians) are inept cowards. Alexander the Great was outnumbered 10 to 1, and still won, chasing down the Persian king, while his armies scattered in the wind.
Posted by: DemocracyRules at March 28, 2007 10:03 PM (L/SIz)
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I agree. A diversionary tactic is taking place for the furthering of their nuclear program or, as in the iraq case, the Russians or the Chinese are coming into the country and cleaning out the cupboards of all the NASTY stuff they have sold to the place holders,( SUDAN, IRAN, VENEZUELA) of their future energy reserves. I smell a big time Power Grab in the Old sense of the world. Maybe thats why the stock market and my family have been so nutty lately.
Posted by: birdhurd at March 28, 2007 11:22 PM (4RJke)
Why on God's green earth would you challenge someone who took out an enemy in a matter of a few months that you couldn't beat for 8 long years? These f*kers are playing poker, not chess and they have suicide kings in their hand.
Posted by: wb at March 31, 2007 10:01 PM (0HmJb)
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Time to tell IRAN to take a hike and if they dont release everyone of them in 24 hours they will go in and bomb them barbarians back to the stone age and reduce TEHRAN to a smoldering mass of rubble and screw the UN
Posted by: sandpiper at April 01, 2007 08:43 PM (nRNnq)
(Video) Full Video of Hostage Faye Turney on Iranian TV
Full video of Iranian state television's broadcast of British hostage Faye Turney and her "confession".
Where are the human rights organizations for this intentional breaking of the Geneva Conventions which explicitly forbid this kind of public display of P.O.W.'s?
Here is the text of the letter, allegedly written by Faye Turney:
Dear Mum & Dad,
I am writing to you from Iran where I am being held.
I will try to explain to you the best what has happened.
We were out in the boats when we were arrested by Iranian forces, as we had apparently gone into Iranian waters.
I wish we hadn't because then I'd be home with you all right now.
I am so sorry we did because I know we wouldn't be here now if we hadn't.
I want you all to know that I am well and safe.
I am being well looked after. I am fed three meals a day and have a constant supply of fluids.
The people are friendly and hospitable, very compassionate and warm.
I have written a letter to the Iranian people to apologise for us entering into their waters.
Please don't worry about me, I am staying strong.
Hopefully it won't be long until I am home to get ready for Molly's birthday party with a present from the Iranian people.
Look after everyone for me, especially Adam and Molly.
I love you all more than you will ever know.
All my love,
Faye
Update: It looks like the vid was uploaded by Shawn Wassan to Liveleak, who adds, "Clearly These Statements Were Made Under Duress".
Britain called the broadcast "completely unacceptable" and said it was concerned that the statements from sailor Faye Turney were coerced. The British government earlier released what it called proof the boat crews were seized in Iraqi waters, and said it was freezing all contacts with Iran except negotiations to release them....
Before the video was broadcast, a Blair spokesman said any showing of British personnel on TV would be a breach of the Geneva Conventions.
"It's completely unacceptable for these pictures to be shown on television," the Foreign Office said after the broadcast. "There is no doubt our personnel were seized in Iraqi territorial waters."...
The Foreign Office said it had "grave concerns" about Turney's state of mind when she spoke on video.
"I am very concerned about these pictures and any indication of pressure on or coercion of our personnel," said Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett. She added that Britain had "comprehensively demonstrated today that our personnel were operating inside Iraqi territorial waters."
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All I am saying is that if these were SAS guys who were captures, or American troops, there would be no forced confession like this. No "I'm sorry to the people of Iran for our injust entry into their waters" spoken with eyes that say "Please let me go!"
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I am disgusted this with this woman. Betraying her oath, her comrades, and her country. Makes me think some troops really do deserve to be spat upon.
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2007 01:28 PM (t9sT5)
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She doesn't say anything harmful, does she? She just tells the truth, it seems. They're treating me well, we didn't know we were in Iranian waters, etc. Give her a break. She's being held hostage for Chrisake.
She's not praising the Mullahcracy and ranting against the Zionist-infidel pigs.
Posted by: Rusty at March 28, 2007 01:31 PM (JQjhA)
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Agree with Rusty - she is being held against her will. I haven't studied the video closely, and frankly wouldn't know what I would be looking for, but do the British have an equivalent "signal" like we do for "I am saying this under duress, and don't believe it"? Like crossed fingers, etc.?
Posted by: TXEric at March 28, 2007 01:44 PM (ghsFT)
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Parading them on video, false confessions. I did notice how fast one soldier was eating like he hadn't eaten for 3 days. I wondered if she was a smoker but it did show she inhaled. What is going to happen next? She gave a (apparant false) confession and didn't they say they would put them on trial? Notice how they scanned her letter. I maybe wrong but I don't think she is going to be released.
Posted by: allahahachew at March 28, 2007 02:00 PM (BrndJ)
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I sure hope to Allah those were halal meals they were given!!
Posted by: mrclark at March 28, 2007 02:16 PM (MEa82)
Let's see how much of a bad ass your are with a pistol aimed at your head.
That statement was made under duress. Do you even know what that word means?
Posted by: Dick at March 28, 2007 02:36 PM (XlQVK)
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You bet your a$$ there won't be any American troops held by Iran (only attacked) - obviously propaganda since they know the UK wont do a damn thing. The last time this happened it was the same story, same country's troops. After their release we'll hear about what really happened to them while in 'custody'.
Posted by: tbone at March 28, 2007 02:37 PM (HGqHt)
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I'd be curious to hear whether the Brits are treated better or worse than the prisoners at GITMO.
You know, the guys who were captured fighting us, out of uniform, hiding behind civilians.
Where's the International Committee of the Red Cross? Where's Amnesty International?
Posted by: Lurking Observer at March 28, 2007 02:42 PM (/ZD7V)
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Rusty said: "She doesn't say anything harmful, does she? She just tells the truth, it seems." However, she wrote, "I have written a letter to the Iranian people to apologise for us entering into their waters."
This not the truth. She has no business apologizing to the Iranian people. I'm not calling her a traitor (as she did not praise the mullahs), but she is still a failure as a sailor. None of the men have apparently caved so quickly (or else we would have heard/seen their 'confessions'). It's a horrible sign of weakness. She should have at least had the backbone to suffer the torture of being deprived a cigarette before capitulating.
If you can't at least take a beating before you give in to the enemy, you have no business being in a combat zone.
Posted by: wooga at March 28, 2007 03:01 PM (t9sT5)
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Point taken about the apology, but, as far as she knows, she was in Iranian waters. Since all her information is coming from the Iranians, then she may well believe that they had mistakingly went over the imaginary line. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Rusty at March 28, 2007 03:40 PM (JQjhA)
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How do the British train their military personnel? Are they given instructions if captured? This broad uses the term "arrested" as opposed to "captured" which suggests her words are not hers. Maybe her politically correct world has taken a right turn and after she crapped in her bloomers she decided living was better than dying...so she sold out, knowing that as a woman her fellow British citizens would understand her "feelings" when she returns. We need more women like her in all democratic armies...so sensitive towards others, especially our enemies, both real and imagined. She makes me puke...but it is not her I am angry toward, it's her officers who placed such an idiot in that boat that didn't know where it was...yea sure they were lost in Iranian waters. They were captured after being given surrender orders from their Mother Ship...it's the command structure with the political structure who are running this stupid game.
Posted by: RJ at March 28, 2007 03:45 PM (yyxO/)
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The US has had its share of Iranian hostage taking. The same "students" ie akmadinnerjacket is in control now as well a coldmania How long were our people held? Who was in power? The Iranians are bolden because diddly squat has been done to them in taking hostages. Go ahead bash the female soldier. Do you know what is going on behind the scenes? The picture of her is worth a thousand words. She is wearing a muslim head scarf. She is not with her fellow commrades. It is prohibited in islam unless they are her family. This is not a female issue but a hostage issue. A commentor on another board said during vietnam the hostages didn't look into the camera when speaking to send a message. She did not look into the camera. Our anger needs to be placed against the Iranians not our allies. She is being used as a scape goat and some of you are falling for it.
Posted by: allahahachew at March 28, 2007 03:47 PM (BrndJ)
Hey Allahahachew...soldiers fight to die a glorius death. What valor is there in surrender? I am not angy at this broad, it is her senior officers...they surrendered to the political leaders... Five days of capture and this broad is coughing up "arrested" etc. You want to offer her our feelings of understanding because she may have had a gun pushed into her ear and cocked? Oh please, don't be so easy to wash away your guilt for not enlisting on such dribble. This is war, not some poli sci class. Do you think the Cruiser from which those boats belong didn't have radar intercepts on the Iranians? They had time to call home to the politicians, therefore they had time to load a few rounds into the 5 incher and make a little love with the Iranian boats coming closer! War is not pretty, it is real, and very very ugly, that's why PTSD is an active part of true combat vets. I want America to win, the Islamofacists to lose...everything they've got!
Posted by: RJ at March 28, 2007 04:02 PM (yyxO/)
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Ahmadinejad whined that the movie "300" portrayed the Persians of 2500 years ago as "savages." How little things have changed over the milennia. Mahmoud must be put to death. Soon.
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Those of you trashing this broad STFD and STFU. Replay it. Watch the body language as she takes a hit off her smoke. Watch the eyes stare down the muzzle, you pussilanimous little pukes. Jeebus!
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 28, 2007 05:36 PM (tM5S2)
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And by the way, where is the condemnation of the Iranians for making this western, Christian woman wear the headscarf indicative of submission to the Religion of misogyny, perpetual outrage, and anal goat sports? Can't hold enemy combatants in an actual POW camp, but THEY can make POWs bow to a false G-d. Fucking barbarians.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at March 28, 2007 05:41 PM (tM5S2)
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I'm with wooga. She should shut up. Being held captive, being well fed and cared for is not a reason to praise the Iranians. Truth is is that she isn't being tortured. She is merely a weakling. She doesn't say a thing about the other troops going home with presents from the Iranian scumbags. Just thinking of herself. Not her country or her fellow prisoners. She should shut up and act as one of the group.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 28, 2007 08:20 PM (LXuMj)
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Shit rolls down hill. Weak officers and COWARDLY brass put this set of boobs on the iranian gong show. Rooster is right, she should not of been there in the first place. I just don't believe in putting women in harms way. At least if it had been rozy odonnalphant green peace would of put up a save the gay whales fight. Nope, the fault lies at the top and with the correctness that put her there. Every moment of inaction is another moment the enemy grows stronger in the eyes of those on the fence, don't forget, the arabs have never been on the losing side in a war.
Posted by: wb at March 29, 2007 05:22 AM (D4E90)
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In the past, women in service (WW2) freed up a man to go be in heavy combat. As for the capture I will say I'm furious with command structures which allow this sort of thing. Even on the Enterprise 'D' they showed more spine than this. On treatment of hostages in general, she may have been told what would happen to the men with her, if she didn't speak up, and that would be a prety hard threat to ignore. For a good person, it is not easy to risk the life of one teammate. Fear for a friend can do what a beating might not. Rather than dog on the lady, lets pray that giant leeches crawl up all of the Mullah's asses! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 29, 2007 12:47 PM (2OHpj)
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"arabs have never been on the losing side in a war." Not that they ever seem to remember. Charles Martel, and el Cid should get a modern interpretation. Acted out for real. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 29, 2007 12:49 PM (2OHpj)
I'd suggest to Tony that he tell all non-Muslims to get the f#ck out of Iran, 'cause he's about to start dropping nukes on their major cities unless the sailors are released unharmed and with a formal apology. Since it's war they want, we might as well get it over with while we're still the only ones with nukes.
Posted by: Duex at March 29, 2007 09:24 PM (7z6ZK)
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Many of you are very prompt at attacking the sailor shown in the video. As far as I'm aware, she is following her instructions in case of capture: As a member of the Royal Navy, her number 1 duty is to stay alive and to keep her team members alive. If need be, try to buy time. A dead sailor is no use to anybody. If any of them makes it back, then they might be able to give crucial intelligence information. The letters are obviously being dictated. She is wearing a headscarf, etc. If this is what it takes so that her companions avoid torture and murder, then she HAS to do it. If she refuses to be paraded and write letters, then her team mates and herself will be killed and the entire point of their mission lost. There is no honor or lack of honor involved in a situation like that. She is obeying her orders 100%. If you don't find it to your taste, then don't look, but bear in mind that wars aren't just fought with guns and bayonets.
Posted by: redjackbonney at March 30, 2007 09:34 AM (xg3Zv)
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Its typical for iran morons to parade prisoners in front of cameras with forced confessions. Blair is right this just makes the public more discusted in iran than they already are. So when iran is pounded with holes from bombs, nobody will have any sympothy.
So take that pathetic rag off Faye's head. Save it for your slave arab.
Posted by: Jordan at March 30, 2007 11:13 AM (gw7O2)
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redjack, I think you're right. the issue about her being there in the first place is moot now anyway as she is a hostage just like the rest. But...... this never should of taken place to begin with and your leaders are only making it more costly with each hour that passes without a full and devastating response. groveling in front of the un is yet even more dispicable when they should be blasting the ever living shit out of the irainian leadership with no let up until they cry out. Only after the exact same apology and begging of their leaders to spare them internationaly broadcast should the onslought cease.
THAT is how you project power.
Posted by: wb at March 30, 2007 11:20 PM (L3O5+)
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Redjack: Now I know what happened to what was once the bravest nation on earth. Honor has been forgotten. Somethings are bigger than life. Like the future of your grandchildren.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 31, 2007 02:02 AM (LDOOz)
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Faye Turney is a traitor and a complete sellout, she should be shot, not welcome home with open arms. She said what she had to to stay alive, but forgot all about oaths to county. This is why woman so be in the kitchen and on their backs instead of combat. They cave in under pressure.
Posted by: Michael Huy at April 05, 2007 01:04 PM (H9sIo)
Rome - The Taliban have freed an Italian journalist held by the insurgents since March 4, the Italian government said Monday, confirming earlier reports out of Kabul.
'Daniele Mastrogiacomo has been freed and is in good condition,' Prime Minister Romano Prodi said in Rome.
Prodi said Mastrogiacomo was currently in a hospital run by Emergency, an Italian non-governmental organization, and that he expected him to return to Italy 'within a few days.'
The premier was speaking just minutes after the publication of a report by the Pajhwok Afghan News, which quoted a Taliban commander as saying Mastrogiacomo had been handed over to Italian officials in Afghanistan in exchange for the release of five Taliban prisoners.
Unfortunately everyone who works for the NGO called Ewergency is now in danger. Once the Taliban figure out how easy it was to extort concessions from the Italians they will use this.
So the reporter got his story. It only cost the release of five terrorists and his driver's life. Some bargain, I hope it was worth it.
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No reason to shop at tali-mart anymore, you can get what ever you want from the Italian goverment, just place your order online @www. appeasement.com What a humilation for what was once the greatest empire in the world.
Posted by: wb at March 19, 2007 01:34 PM (qbe4E)
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Howie EVERYONE who works at NGO's in Afghanistan knows that they are in at least some danger, all of the time They still choose to try and help others. When i met people from that NGO in Cambodia in 1999 they were working way out in the fringe areas of the countryside where the Khmer Rouge still had some power.They were helping to set up health clinics.
Posted by: John Ryan at March 19, 2007 01:59 PM (TcoRJ)
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Yes and your point is? I'd reckon they would like to be in the least amount of danger possible. This does not help matters. Who's next?
Posted by: Howie at March 19, 2007 02:02 PM (YHZAl)
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Give the reporter a break. He was just doing his job by reporting in the country. He said that he saw his driver have his head cut off. He clearly feels bad that he dided. Don't blame Daniele for what happeend. It was not his fault.
Posted by: George Ramos at March 19, 2007 08:33 PM (TmLg9)
John Lyin: Tell the truth asshole you were in Cambodia looking for little boys to molest. Commie creep.
George Ramos: Differ with you buddy. But these reporters continue to place others in harms way. If they were the only ones affected it would be their choice. But this is an example of what happens. Others die and who knows what the five released Taliban will do in the future.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 19, 2007 09:38 PM (jNRRK)
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They'll be driving cabs for the Minnesota airports.
Posted by: wb at March 19, 2007 11:58 PM (qbe4E)
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True, it's not the reporters fault. I wish he has had better judgement or luck. It's not his fault these people are butchers. I'm just angry they got him and it worked for them. I'm glad he's
safe. I just wish people would think just a little before they think, "Oh, I'm going to
march right in there and get me an interview with a butcher." There's
brave and stupid or stupid and brave , or driven and stupid and some
days just plain gee that was stupid.
I was thinking of them all. I just wanted to drive home that this was not a happy ending.
Posted by: Howie at March 20, 2007 08:16 AM (YHZAl)
ROME - One of two Afghan nationals kidnapped with Italian reporter Daniele Mastrogiacomo in Afghanistan last week has been killed, Italy’s ANSA news agency said on Friday, quoting a Taleban fighter.
‘His throat was slit at 7 a.m. because he was confirmed to be a spy for foreign military forces,’ ANSA quoted Ibrahim Hanifi as saying. The dead man is believed to have been Mastrogiacomo’s driver.
Italian Reporter in Hostage Video(updated/Bumped)
The Taliban have been holding Daniele Mastrogiacomo and two others. They claim that he confessed to spying and they found “lasers in his shampoo.†The Taliban have threatened to Murder Mr. Mastrogiacomo. A videotape was sent to his paper today through an Italian NGO. The tape was made Monday the 12th. This is probably a “proof of life†statement in an attempt to gain the release of four of their members. Probably some ransom as well.
The paper has released one still and a transcript of his statement. The statement by the terrorists is here. The tape has not been been made public.
Via La Repubblica: "My name is Daniele Mastrogiacomo, I'm a journalist for la Repubblica newspaper. I'm here in Afghanistan. My father's name is Mario, my mother's name is Franca Lisa. Today is Monday, March 12th and it's 8 o'clock a.m., here in Afghanistan".
"As you can see, I'm in good physical condition... at least.... However I'm alive, luckily, until now".
"I'm under detention... I've been arrested by a taliban group. They believe that we (myself and two other afghan colleagues) have entered illegaly into their territory. So, now I'm addressing the italian government and mr. president Romano Prodi, in order to ask them to do everything in their power, to act with all their means in order to obtain our freedom as soon as possible... so that we should no longer be in this situation... in a word... that we be released...".
"I'm also speaking to my wife Luisella and my daughter and son Alice and Michele: be calm, there's no problem. You'll see that your father will be able to work it out, anyway. I believe this is a situation... they arrested me because I was in taliban territory. I think they will soon release me. Obviously you have to be just a little patient. And I'm sure you are all with me. Thank you for all you're trying to do for me. Thank you".
Update II: In a new audio message recieved today Mr. Mastrogiacomo is begging for his life. He says the Taliban have given two days before they will murder him.
Via IOL: Kabul - An Italian journalist abducted in Afghanistan 10 days ago has appealed to authorities to meet his kidnappers' demands, warning he would otherwise be executed in two days, an Afghan news agency said on Thursday.
"After that they will kill us," a voice said to be that of Daniele Mastrogiacomo said in English in a compact disc recording obtained by Reuters from the Pajhwok agency. "There are only two days. Please. Please."
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No offense, and we do need to stay informed, but I have to say, I hate hostage videos. It means someone is a hostage, and that plain sucks! Even though it's ugly, thanks for keeping us up to date.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 15, 2007 01:45 AM (2OHpj)
Posted by: greyrooster at March 15, 2007 09:28 AM (tipQ2)
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The Italians have a long and proud history of doing nothing. The shortest book in the world is that of Italian war heroes.
Posted by: Jester at March 15, 2007 03:26 PM (iwtIO)
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Not true, they paid ransom in three cases. In one of those cases, they also had the Italian Red Cross treat four terrorists' wounds.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 15, 2007 05:07 PM (TmLg9)
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I stand corrected Donald. Your statement says it all when it comes to their psyche for solving problems.
Posted by: Jester at March 15, 2007 05:49 PM (iwtIO)
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Indeed, I hope Daniele and his two co workers are freed. Money may be what the Taliban wants.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 15, 2007 06:05 PM (TmLg9)
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In the name of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior we ask that the hostage be release with no money attached. Amen.
Posted by: xyz at March 15, 2007 06:31 PM (SWxUy)
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If the payment is make. More people will be kidnapped and slaughtered because of it. All the world can hope for is for the MODERATE islamic to condemn the terrorits. They won't. They are as evil as the terrorists. When people kill innocents in the name of God its time to get rid of that God. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 15, 2007 07:35 PM (pVVSX)
AP via Yahoo News: LONDON - Five Europeans abducted almost two weeks ago in one of Ethiopia's most remote and inhospitable regions were released Tuesday in neighboring Eritrea after the government there pressured tribal leaders to intervene, officials said. British officials would not say whether a ransom had been paid....
....Beckett said officials "continue to be concerned for the welfare" of eight Ethiopians abducted at the same time.
She would not say whether ransom was paid in return for the European hostages' release. "I can't tell you that and I'm not sure I would, actually," Beckett said.
I hope a ransom was not paid to secure their release. I fear that will only encourage more kidnappings and place others in danger. That being said, I'm glad they are free and safe.
We also pray for the release of the eight Ethiopians still held captive.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 02:34 PM (W7E9s)
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Donald Miller, can you link to a source for the ransom being paid? It may be useful to me, and it would at the very least, add to what we know. Thanks USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 13, 2007 02:55 PM (2OHpj)
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There is no source, but the way that spokesman talked sounds like ransom was paid.
And Margaret Hassan was the aid worker who was shot in the head (obviously killed) by Iraqi terrorists after Britain refused to pay ransom. Her real name was Margaret Fitzsimmons. She was married to an Iraqi man who's last name is Hassan. She was born in Ireland but moved to England as a child. She never converted to Islam. She was a Roman Catholic.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 13, 2007 03:13 PM (TmLg9)
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Thanks anyway. I hate those scumbags. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 14, 2007 02:19 AM (2OHpj)
Taliban Still Holding Italian Reporter
A couple updates to this story. La Repubblica has denied any spying. The Taliban now claim the reporter had lasers in his Shampoo. They say if he can prove he is not a spy they will release him. But they also say he has already confessed. As Rusty said in his previous entry, “When Islamists accuse a hostage of spying, it is usually a prelude to his murder.â€
Reuters: ROME, March 7 (Reuters) - Italian newspaper La Repubblica has denied that one of its journalists who was kidnapped by the Taliban in Afghanistan was a spy.
A Taliban spokesman said on Tuesday that Daniele Mastrogiacomo, 52, had confessed to spying for British troops after being picked up in the lawless Helmand province.
"He has no relationship whatsoever either with military organisations nor with police or intelligence services of any kind or country," Ezio Mauro, the paper's editor-in-chief, said in a statement on Wednesday.
Agence France Presse news agency said on Wednesday it received a voice recording of a man claiming to be top Taliban commander Mullah Dadullah, who said the reporter and two Afghans accompanying him had confessed to seeking information on the guerrilla group's hideouts to provide to British troops.
SPIN BOLDAK, Afghanistan (Reuters) - The Taliban said on Friday they would free kidnapped Italian reporter Daniele Mastrogiacomo if he could prove he was not a spy.
Khan said the Taliban had recovered a video camera, a satellite phone and "lasers in shampoo bottles" that could help in air strikes on the Taliban positions. Air strikes are often guided by lasers from troops on the ground.
"We're investigating if the journalist Daniele was involved in bringing lasers in shampoo bottles," he added.
As Rusty said in his first post on this subject. “We demand the unconditional release of Daniele Mastrogiacomo. All those who would qualify their demands for his safe release are unfit to be called human beings.â€
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So the Italians haven't done anything to help THEIR citizen.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 02:35 PM (W7E9s)
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Lasers in shampoo bottles? Is this some sort of weird translation error, or are they seriously claiming he smuggled laser targeting devices inside of shampoo bottles?
Posted by: wooga at March 13, 2007 03:15 PM (t9sT5)
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Nope Greyrooster. He's not an attractive aid worker like the Simonas. And yes Wooga, the Taliban did say they found lasers in shampoo. Obviously, that's BS.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 13, 2007 03:18 PM (TmLg9)
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Donald Miller I think it's BS as well, but it isn't impossible they found some kind of laser. They have many legitiamte uses. My biggest question is how do these stoneage morons think they know anything about lasers anyway? If they had lightsabres, they would turn them on while holding them backwards! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 14, 2007 02:17 AM (2OHpj)
Terrorists Threaten to Murder Old Lady
A group of Islamic terrorists calling themselves the Arrows of Right Brigade has released a video threatenting to murder and old woman and her son if Germany does not withdraw it's support for NATO forces in Afghanistan.
The Global Islamic Media Front (GIMF), in collaboration with the al-Firdaws Network, issued to jihadist forums a 6:09 video through the Caliphate Voice Channel today, March 10, 2007, calling upon the governments of Germany and Austria to withdraw their troops from Afghanistan and cease support for the U.S. and NATO.
Transcript of the hostage video continues below the fold.
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Ok, I'd blog stuff if I ever get done fixing all the errs in this post. I suck.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 12, 2007 09:30 AM (YHZAl)
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Thanks for posting this Howie. Germany will obviously pay millions of dollars to free the mother and son.
Posted by: George Ramos at March 12, 2007 12:49 PM (TmLg9)
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Yes, and then what? Who will be next. What will it take to be eve nmore shocking. I'm glad the others did not die but it's possible that Germany paid ransom before and by doing so put these people in more danger.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 12, 2007 02:08 PM (YHZAl)
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Merkel should use back channels to tell the terrorists that if they do not immediately release these two unharmed, Germany will send troops to Iraq to fight alongside the US.
Posted by: EFR at March 12, 2007 05:06 PM (ORBuz)
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LOL, then they'll be shot. Also, I'm not saying I support paying ransom for the release of hiostages. I'm just saying the truth. Germany will pay millions of dollars to free the mother and son. I believe they did pay ransom to free three other Germans kidnapped in Iraq.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 12, 2007 08:47 PM (TmLg9)
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I would like to know exactly who this mother and son is. Are they real Germans? Or muslim immigrant Germans? What were they doing in a muslim country? Were they visiting relatives? What's the whole story.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 07:29 AM (W7E9s)
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The mother is married to an Iraqi doctor. The doctor is the father of the son.
Posted by: Donald Miller at March 13, 2007 07:39 AM (TmLg9)
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So the mother and son were visiting an Iraqi living in Iraq? So I take it that the father is a muslim. I notice the head covering on the women. Did she convert to Islam? Do we have a muslim being kidnapped by other muslims and expect Germany to pay the bill. Should the tax payers of Germany pay ransome for muslims who go to a war zone where kidnapping of foreigners takes place on a daily basis? Always to sides. If a US Citizen is kidnapped in America does the government pay the kidnappers? Even if the person kidnapped isn't dumb enough to go to muslim country where kidnapping is a way of life. Goes back to you when you make your own bed you sometimes must lay in it. Sorry gang. I feel sorry for her and wish her the best but government paying money to muslim kidnappers isn't the way to go.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 03:23 PM (W7E9s)
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If you are muslim or not the Jihadis force women to wear a head covering.
Posted by: Howie at March 13, 2007 04:58 PM (YHZAl)
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A point. But doesn't answer the questions. Paying kidnappers promotes more kidnapping.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 13, 2007 07:23 PM (W7E9s)
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Er uh I don't disagree with you, "Paying kidnappers promotes more kidnapping." that is correct. If Gernamy hadn't paid the last few tiimes maybe this would not have happend. Of course letting the other die would have been horrid. But not less horrid than the old lady getting it.
Posted by: Darth Odie at March 14, 2007 01:30 PM (YHZAl)
Taliban Kidnap Italian Reporter, Two Others
Taliban terrorists have kidnapped an Italian journalist in Afghanistan and have charged him with "spying for the British". The Taliban claim to be holding two other hostage as well. Still, it's reassuring to know that the British newspaper, The Telegraph, finds it convenient to call the Taliban "guerrillas".
When organizations capture and then murder hostages, they cease to be within the normal bounds of civilized behavior. You don't have to call them terrorists, but something along those lines---barbaric pricks in need of immediate life termination---will do.
The journalist's kidnapping comes on the heels of a large-scale military offensive in Afghanistan, Operation Achilles.
The Taliban says it has kidnapped an Italian journalist who it claimed was spying for British troops in southern Afghanistan, along with two Afghan colleagues.
Guerrilla spokesman Qari Mohammad Yousuf said the reporter worked for La Repubblica.
Speaking by satellite phone from an undisclosed location, he said the reporter had confessed to spying after being picked up in neighbouring Helmand province yesterday.
So, how does one go about picking up a phone and calling the Taliban? But I digress....
He added: "He was pretending to be a journalist, but when we investigated we found he's working for the British troops.
"We're interrogating him and the other two."
For its part, La Repubblica has been out of contact with Daniele Mastrogiacomo for some time. WaPo:
"We have not heard from him since Sunday, he was in Kandahar on assignment," said the paper's editor-in-chief, Ezio Mauro, according to La Repubblica's Web site. Kandahar is the Taliban's former stronghold in the country's volatile south.....
La Repubblica newspaper said Mastrogiacomo, 52, was born in Karachi, Pakistan, where his father was an engineer for an Italian company. He has dual Italian-Swiss citizenship, but was traveling only with his Italian passport, the paper said.
Mastrogiacomo has worked since 2002 as a staff correspondent in Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, Gaza, Lebanon and Iraq.
The most troubling aspect of the story is the claim by the Taliban that Italian journalist Daniele Mastrogiacomo is "spying" for the British. The area he was captured in has a large British contingent, but when Islamists accuse a hostage of "spying" it is usually a prelude to his murder.
Initial reports of a journalist’s abduction included conflicting information. In Afghanistan, a Taliban spokesman told AP that the group had detained an unnamed Briton and two Afghan assistants in Helmand province. The spokesman said the Briton claimed to work for La Repubblica, but the paper told CPJ that only Mastrogiacomo was missing.....
[the good news] On November 3, Gabriele Torsello, an Italian freelance photographer who had been held for ransom for more than three weeks by a criminal group in Kandahar, was released unharmed.
We demand the unconditional release of Daniele Mastrogiacomo. All those who would qualify their demands for his safe release are unfit to be called human beings.
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Maybe the Taliban called the newspaper you fucking dumbass. And you call yourself a professor.
Posted by: John Dork at March 06, 2007 07:29 PM (TmLg9)
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Are you always so stupid John Dork? It's not a matter of who called whom, but that the media and the Taliban have a working relationship. The Taliban goons are constantly being interviewed--in person--by various news outlets.
Posted by: Rusty at March 06, 2007 07:37 PM (JQjhA)
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Perhaps the Italians should get off their asses and do something about it.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 06, 2007 08:49 PM (wTIrf)
Posted by: John Dork at March 06, 2007 09:12 PM (TmLg9)
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The newspaper la repubblica is a known leftist publication.
Besides I want to see now if that moron of Prodi will do something about it. And how will he do it?
Because let's face it. Without the help of our american friends we wont be able to do much.
Ooops sorry I forgot. He is the prime minister who called Bush an idiot, pulled our troops from Iraq, has implemented an anti american policy, and given the green light to have CIA agents on trial , has communists seating in his governement, has a foreign minister Mr. Massimo D'Alema (aka Massimo Ben Ulema for his friends) who is fiercely anti israel and pro arab going around Beyrouth kissing Hezbollah terrorists....
Posted by: Jack's Smirking Revenge at March 06, 2007 11:59 PM (AX3yc)
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hummm so the Talibandits kidnapped some "lefty" journalist.
#1) What the down side?
#2) Just like the Italians did before, the Prodi Gubmint will lavish millions $$$ on the Islamo-Tards as soon as they find a "negotiator". In the meantime I wouldn't expect any videos of head-chopping until the check clears.
Posted by: Rubin at March 07, 2007 04:35 AM (/Y/5D)
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The Taliban has never released beheading videos of Westerners. They have only released beheading videos of Afghanis.
Posted by: John Dork at March 07, 2007 01:40 PM (TmLg9)
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I still think we should tell the chinese that taliban taste like chicken. Fucking appeasers deserve what they get, better to die in battle than under the enemies boot.
More Hostages Freed, MSM Yawns Again
The first two released hostages stories were only picked up by CBS and Daily News Analysis.
Via CBSNEWS: Lt. Col. Valery Keaveny described breaking through a double-locked door to find an Iraqi police officer and another Iraqi man who had undergone "considerable torture." The policeman had been shot in both ankles and the other man had been dangling from the ceiling and "beaten severely by a pipe for a good deal of time," Keaveny told reporters.
The captives told U.S. soldiers they had been convicted to death by an insurgent court at the site _ about 18 miles west of Baghdad near the village of Karmah _ and had the choice of either beheading or a fatal gunshot, said Keaveny.
They were spared immediate death, Keaveny said, because the insurgents' video camera didn't work and they had gone to get a new one to film the executions. "(The insurgents) said they would be back in the morning," he said. "And that's when we came in, that night."
The two men were taken by U.S. forces for medical treatment.
The site also contained a huge stockpile of more than 1 million pounds of aluminum sulfate, which can be used as a component in nitrate-based fertilizer explosives.
Of particular interest to me in the DNA story was this...
Via DNA: "We have also arrested the most dangerous man in northern Iraq, Fuad Ahmed al-Mufraji, who is responsible for a number of assassinations," said Khalaf, adding he was captured near Tikrit, 180 kilometres north of the capital, also on Monday.
I’m not sure if this is the big orangutan looking guy in all the snuff videos, but I hope so.
Four other hostages were freed as well, Via Centcom:
3/4/2007 BAGHDAD, IRAQ – An assessment performed by Coalition Forces following an air strike in Arab Jabour on Saturday led to the rescue of four Iraqi citizens and the uncovering of a terrorist weapons cache today.
Four Iraqi citizens were liberated from a building near the site of yesterday’s air strike. According to one of the liberated hostages, the terrorists holding them captive fled immediately after the air strike. All four hostages were treated on site for various injuries. One of the hostages said he had been held captive for 50 days.
At the site of the air strike, Ground forces also found remnants of an anti-aircraft heavy machine gun known as a DShK and multiple rocket propelled grenades and grenade launchers. Additionally, a DShK Tripod was found dug in the ground along the Tigris River with spent ammunition cartridges.
Coalition Forces called in the air strike yesterday after they began receiving small arms fire from several armed men across the Tigris River and were unable to safely subdue enemy fire.
Coalition Forces used two precision guided bombs in the strike destroying a small structure and killing seven terrorists hiding inside. A large secondary explosion was noted after the initial bombs were dropped on the target, indicating the presence of explosive material within the structure.
When hostages are murdered, those stories get their own headline and everyone covers them. When hostages are freed, not so much.
1"...led to the rescue of four Iraqi citizens and..."
Congrats to the good guys on this victory!
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Coalition Forces used two precision guided bombs in the strike destroying a small structure and killing seven terrorists.."
I hope a video clip of this airstrike finds its way to YouTube or LiveLeak. I'd love to watch that. I especially love those from the aircraft itself.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at March 06, 2007 02:26 PM (vixLB)
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Have there been any figures published on how many people are being currently held as hostages ?
Posted by: JOHN RYAN at March 06, 2007 02:37 PM (TcoRJ)
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I know four Americans and one Austrian and an Iraqi American soldier are being held hostage for ransom. They were kidnapped by two seperate groups and are two different cases. As for Iraqis, who the hell knows.
Posted by: George Ramos at March 06, 2007 05:44 PM (TmLg9)
Video of UK Imam: Ken Bigley Murder Justified
In this video, a British Muslim cleric discusses the beheading murder of Ken Bigley. He justifies Bigley's murder as an act of war, even though Ken Bigley was being held hostage at the time. Ironically, Bigley's murder was said to be in retaliation for the abuse of prisoners at Abu Ghraib. Abusing Muslim prisoners=bad; beheading infidel hostages=not bad.
Kenneth Bigley was in Iraq as a civilian engineer when he was captured by Abu Musab al Zarqawi's "Tawhid wal Jihad", later changed to "al Qaeda in Iraq". Several hostage propaganda videos were released in which Bigley was seen wearing the orange jumpsuit of Abu Ghraib and in which he made demands on the the Blair government for his release. In his last video, Kenneth Bigley is seen making more demands on Tony Blair and seems to be unaware that the man standing behind him, Abu Musab al Zarqawi, is about to murder him.
UPDATE: Jeremy Reynalds identifies the man as Abdul Rahman Saleem. Where have you heard that name before? He is the follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed who was put on trial for his part in the Mohammed cartoon protests when he advocated murdering blasphemers. He pleaded not guilty, of course.
We are not sure the name of the person justifying the murder of Ken Bigley, but another video, recorded at the same time, shows that just to the speaker's left sits a more familiar character: Abu Izzadeen. The speaker, then, is most likely a follower of Omar Bakri Mohammed.
Izzadeen is under indictment in the U.K. for inciting terrorism, but as far as we can tell the speaker in this video is walking around the streets of London or Birmingham inciting more Muslims to commit acts of murder, terrorism, or treason. Bakri Mohammed's followers in Britain unanimously support recruiting for jihad in Iraq and Afghanistan. Yes, they want British Muslims to fight British troops--the very definition of treason.
In the video, the speaker justifies Kenneth Bigley's murder on the grounds that Bigley was in Iraq to help fix military hardware which would then be used to "kill Muslims". This is not true. Kenneth Bigley, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong were in Iraq to work on civilian reconstruction efforts. They were there helping Muslims. It is al Qaeda in Iraq that continues to murder Muslims to this day.
The speaker then says Bigley was in Iraq to "steal the money of the Muslims". Which, of course, is also patently untrue. Ken Bigley was being paid by the U.S. government to help the Iraqis rebuild their country so that Muslims in Iraq would have a functioning economy so that they could earn money for themselves. It is those that murdered Ken Bigley that steal money from Muslims by blowing up Iraq's infrastructure.
The speaker, in what seems to be a bit of "humor", warns that people involved in the reconstruction effort--or, as he deems it, "stealing from Muslims"---should "mind your head". No doubt, a reference to the dozens of civilians beheaded by al Qaeda and other jihadi groups in Iraq.
Last, even though Bigley "converted" to Islam at the point of a knife, the speaker reiterates that since Islam forbids forced conversions, then Bigley must have become a Muslim of his own free will. See if you follow that sick and twisted logic? And if that is the case, even though the speaker does not say it in this video, those listening would undoubtedly understand another reason why his murder was "justified". To the Salafi jihadi mind, Muslims helping the U.S. and U.K. in Iraq are "traitors".
To get some ideas for yourself on how you can help, see Jeremy Reynald's book: Fighting the Online Jihad.
The video is below. If you saw the video of Kenneth Bigley being murdered, you might want to remove any objects from your reach that can be thrown at your computer.
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Those who murdered Bigley, Armstrong and Hensley were cowards. I would like to find this muslim piece of shit and start by kicking the crap out of him. Muslims out of the UK now...we have had enough of you and your fucked religion.
Posted by: Jester at March 06, 2007 04:12 PM (iwtIO)
Video/Images: 18 Iraqis Murdered by al Qaeda
A video showing the murder of eighteen captured Iraqi soldiers and other Ministry of Defense workers was posted by al Qaeda to the internet yesterday. The video is posted below (scroll down).
Actually, they are murdered by The Islamic State of Iraq (ISI)--but calling them "al Qaeda" seems to bother ISI leader Abu Omar al-Baghdadi (who may have been captured over the weekend--fingers crossed). And if I can't personally kill al-Baghdadi or al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Masri (aka, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir), then annoying them will have to suffice.
As Kafir noted on Saturday, an image from the video had been posted with a warning that the video would be forthcoming. Vicki, from Not Ready for My Burqua notes that the al Qaeda in Iraq Emir warns:
This operation is only a drop in the bucket, and what will come is more wicked and bitter, with the permission of Allah the Almighty.
We have noted that al Qaeda in Iraq and their allies had, for a time, stopped procucing these snuff videos of hostages being murdered. However, since mid-February there has been an upsurge of claims that hostages have been murdered--many of them beheaded.
SITE notes that the Islamic State in Iraq claimed the kidnapping and subsequent murders of the hostages:
to be primarily in response to the rape accusations of a Sunni woman, Sabrin al-Janabi, towards Shi’ite security forces....
The video opens with footage of the men blindfolded and sitting in rows, and a message is shown on-screen that is also dictated. Its words are similar to those of the two prior statements, but add that the Mujahideen rose to action after the appeal of the Emir of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Hamza al-Muhajir, which he presented in an audio message addressing Sabrin.
Following the message, a number of the captured men, blindfolded and bound, are shown shot repeatedly with pistols by the masked Mujahideen.
Also, the Islamic State of Iraq issued a statement today indicating that fourteen other employees of the Ministry of Interior were captured on Thursday, March 1, and “Allah’s Orders†were also executed upon them.
Vicki, who sent the video, says she was ambivalent about posting videos like this, posts on why it is important for more Americans to view them. We agree wholeheartedly:
These murderers are not freedom fighters or Minutemen, as Michael Moore so famously declared. This is what they do to fellow Muslims they consider traitors, and we know what they do to infidels. I guess we're too civilized for the old heads-on-pikes treatment, so I imagine we'll be seeing more of these videos before we finally wipe out this den of vipers.
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Yawn.... I watched a few hundred people murdered on September 11, 2001. They jumped to their death to keep from burning. There isn't anything that these idiots could film that could bother me anymore. We are past the inimidation point. Some should tell abdul that it's on, he can't scare any of us into backing down. Here's an idea though, that kind of shit might just work on them. The enemy sets the rules and whatever happens is entirely on him.And don't give me that bukkshit about being no better than they are, we have to be worse. They won't quit because they like us. Of course, bill clinton can go talk to him first...on his own dime.
Posted by: wb at March 05, 2007 02:40 PM (4DPNw)
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These are a bunch of cowards--plain and simple. They can't face our troops head on, so they kidnap people through trickery and then murder them like the thugs that they are.
I'm glad the surge is working--these guys are getting theirs arses kicked, and the pathetic media can't even report that violence is down and that rule of law is taking hold. It really says a lot about the bloodthirstiness of MSM types along with their terrorist counterparts...they employ the same tactics, all to get a reaction from the public in order to get their way.
They will have to answer to God one day for the way they have conducted themselves.
Posted by: Richard Romano at March 05, 2007 03:39 PM (/2Xsz)
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Not to mention 72 menopause all at one time.....
Posted by: wb at March 05, 2007 06:31 PM (4DPNw)
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I am allah the almighty. I do not give permission.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 06, 2007 02:24 AM (criip)
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Hey allahmiester,
how come everones father was a mother fucker at least once?
Westerners Kidnapped in Ethiopia
So far, it seems to be a bad week for French nationals abroad. Four French were murdered in Saudi Arabia, three French were killed in Brazil and now 10 French have allegedly been kidnapped in Ethiopia. To make matters worse, it also appears that some British citizens were taken along with the French.
Ten French tourists were kidnapped in northern Ethiopia today by unknown people, a businessman and a tour operator who work in the region said.
The tourists were in a convoy of four vehicles in Dalol, 800 kilometres north-east of Addis Ababa, travelling to salt mines in the Afar region when they were kidnapped, said the businessman, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
As for the Brits, another source reports that five British citizens have gone missing along with the French nationals. One is believed to be Rossanna Moore, wife of Michael Moore, Director of the British Council in Ethiopia.
Unfortunately, the location of the alleged kidnappings is quite remote and in difficult terrain so it may take time to sort out the entire story. A rebel group, the Afar Revolutionary Democratic Unity Front (Arduf), is known to operate in the area and it may be responsible for the kidnappings.
No official confirmation of the kidnappings has been reported by Ethiopian authorities. Tony Blair, however, has been informed and is waiting for details.
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You know, maybe France's stance against Iraq, keeping out of Iraq, supplying jets and weaponry to rogue nations and refusing to put a decent effort towards Afghanistan isn't really helping their tourists and other French abroad. You would think that maybe they're just siding with their own enemy and will continue to suffer for it (see: riots). But hey, what do we know?
Posted by: MidnightSun at March 02, 2007 11:44 AM (nR/14)
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Oh, forgot to state, I feel sorry for the British citizens that were kidnapped.
Posted by: MidnightSun at March 02, 2007 11:45 AM (nR/14)
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And WHY ?? Why would you even want to consider the French as Westerners?
Posted by: memphis761 at March 02, 2007 11:52 AM (YHZAl)
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the kidnappers probably saw the rolexes, volvos, wine sipping, rainbow flag t shirts covering flabby abs and figured they were American democrats. Once they figure out they are french, they'll let them go becuase no one wants them. (Wait till they find out we'd be more likely to pay to get french back if gievn a choice)
Posted by: wb at March 02, 2007 11:55 AM (ASQZ1)
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Guys, I'm not going to say anything except I hope all the kidnap victims return safe. When humans beings get taken by thugs, and murderers, its the correct position. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 02, 2007 07:33 PM (2OHpj)
Paratroopers Free Hostages in Iraq, MSM Yawns
If you think U.S. troops freeing hostages in Iraq would be front page news, you'd be wrong. If you think it would merit at least a backpage story at any of the nation's large newspapers, you'd also be wrong. How about a mention? Like, three or four paragraphs down in any of the hundreds of stories about Iraq run on a given day? Nope. Just us and one other minor Google News source that ran this CENTCOM press release, let alone mentioned the heroic deed done by our nation's finest.
Q:How come the NY Times & Washington Post editorial staff gets to decide what really matters in Iraq, but that courtesy is not extended the United States Central Command? Because, last time I checked, precisely zero editors for our flagship publications--and less than half a dozen actual reporters--were on the ground in Iraq, while at least 130,000 boots belonging to CENTCOM were.
KALSU, Iraq - Dismounted paratroopers located an insurgent safe house uncovering a weapons cache and freeing two hostages south of Baghdad Feb. 26.
Paratroopers from 2nd Battalion, 377th Parachute Field Artillery Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division located the safe house, where they found the two hostages and a weapons cache near Mahmudiyah.
The cache contained three AK-47s, 14 30-round magazines, one 100-round magazine drum, two fragmentary grenades, one cell phone and one hand held radio.
The freed hostages were given immediate medical treatment. (Source: CENTCOM)
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Becuase if the Iraqi people figure out the terrorists are their real enemy then the MSM is out of a war to report. They wiull have to give credit to the administration for defeating the terrorists and freeing 26 million people. Olnly liberals have the moral fiber to determine who should be free. Any more questions?
Posted by: Howie at March 01, 2007 12:16 PM (YHZAl)
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Rusty the American people are going to need something they consider a lot more important than the freeing of 3 hostages before they consider this war to be going well.
Rusty according to the Weekly Standard (hardly a liberal publication !) it saysthat that the reason that there are not more reporters is because the US Army refuses to embed them into units. The units have the final say on whether or not to have reporters with them and they do not want that. The author of the Weekly Standard article flatly says this amounts to censorship.Here is a link to the article.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/012/844nigml.asp
It appeared in vol12 issue 07 10/30/06
Howie MSM prints and shows what news the American people indicate that they want to see. Britney Spears,lost puppies finding their way home,mypetjawa,NY Times, it is all available and people choose what they wish. It is the American Way !! Nothing is forced on us, we choose or we decline. 75% of Americans have access to the internet 40% have broadband, people CAN choose the message they wish.
Posted by: JOHN RYAN at March 01, 2007 03:03 PM (TcoRJ)
And there is a ton more. Hamid is pure distortion, a vortex of deciet. There should be a way to arrest people who aid the enemy like that. "Swedish journalist" indeed?! And I suppose its a coincidence that rape is epidemic in parts of Sweden!? You can guess which communities, can't you?
I've seen Hamid's contribution to Michael Moore's propaganda efffort, and it takes edited footage from his embed, and twists it to fit his narrative, and agenda. One 'Urban Hamid' undoes all the good that a dozen honest embeds accomplish.
No wonder the Military isn't excited about putting biased reporters into the field. Who is this Logan bitch anyway? What's her motive? The MSM are swine!
Not much point in including enemy agents in your units is there? Anyway the drops of truth are lost in an MSM ocean of lies and distortion. No wonder the truth doesn't impact the American public like it should. Thanks to all you lefties who keep making the lies work!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 01, 2007 05:25 PM (2OHpj)
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The five mercenaries being rescued would be big news. Iraqis being freed is never big news to the MSM. May John Young, Jonathon Cote, Bert Nussbaumer, Joshua Munz, and Paul Reuben be freed soon.
Posted by: John Doe at March 01, 2007 05:53 PM (f+ZRz)
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Come on, everybody with 2 functional brain cells knows its because having chosen to commit treason as a method of gaining political power (read control of U.S. tax money) the liberal left cannot report on anything that would detract from their treasonous message of GW's failure to execute the obligations of his office.
Maybe it has something to do with people like geraldo giving out troop locations while with them. Another easy read for you Professor, Task Force Dagger by Robin Williams. My favorite passage is about how the guys were drawing straws to see who would get to kock him the fuck out. That and the female pilot of the A10 that was blasting the shit out of the he man taliban while talking to them on the radio. It took less than 300 guys to bring them down. And then... the politicians had to get involved. My oh my.
Just wondering Professor W, do you know what the standard amount of ammo issued to a marine on guard duty in beirut was prior to 1983? Lets ask...... less than a man les aspen...... do doo do do *ding* 0!!!!! See you can have political solutions to moral issues, 500K die but it was solved, but you can't have politicians making tactical military directives on a management level.......
Posted by: wb at March 01, 2007 11:57 PM (kCAJE)
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Because the MSM = Democrats, and because victory in Iraq isn't part of the Democrat agenda.
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Carlos,
ANYTHING that might make Pres. GWB look good isn't in their agenda. If he invented a cure for all cancers, they'd talk about how terrible it was that there were going to be so mnay people around that didn't die and what a burden that was on immigrant economic refugees that weren't able to become citizens by crossing the rio grande and how that was Pres Bush's fault as well.......
Posted by: wb at March 02, 2007 11:39 AM (ASQZ1)
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wb, I had trouble finging your book. Is this it!?
Three American Women Reportedly Kidnapped In Nablus **Updated, They're Free**
Via Breitbart by way of no-linky Drudge:
NABLUS, West Bank (AP) -- Three American women seen taking photos near a West Bank refugee were kidnapped on Tuesday, Palestinian security officials said. There was no claim of responsibility by an armed Palestinian group, but a man calling himself Hadi Saud contacted The Associated Press in Nablus and said he was the kidnapper.
He demanded a job in the Palestinian security forces and medication for a shooting injury sustained last year, in exchange for releasing the hostages. He provided no proof that he is holding the women.
NABLUS, West Bank - Three American women were briefly kidnapped Tuesday in the
West Bank city of Nablus and were released later in the evening, Palestinian security officials said.
Posted by: George Weinert V at February 20, 2007 01:19 PM (16B+V)
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Lucky son-of-a-cat! To be able to find three pieces of uncovered meat just waiting to be discovered!
Ynet reports that they were probably human rights watch (or peace activists, or something like that).
Posted by: busywwolf at February 20, 2007 04:20 PM (6mdwC)
Rubin: Usually works out that way. Perhaps one of them is the Sheehan bitch. Haven't heard much from her these days.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2007 07:06 AM (smCdV)
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But Michael Savage is considered a racist. He tells the truth.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 21, 2007 02:18 PM (smCdV)
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I hope Michael Savage runs. That way the Repugs won't win for sure.
Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 21, 2007 03:13 PM (ZxuJ4)
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I like Michael Savage, but I'm thinking we need a different candidate. Savage is in love with the USA but that isn't enough by itself, to win, and be effective. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 22, 2007 08:00 AM (2OHpj)
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Stupid democrats are self-destructing just like I called months ago. The lying Clinton bitch and Barrack HUSSEIN Jomma are starting at each other. Apparently the Jomama camp called the Clintons liars. So. "I didn't have sex with that woman, Ms Lewinski, never, not one time" As the piece of lefturd shit waves his finger at the American people. Hell they are liars. Just like the lefturd osamaisawigger.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 22, 2007 08:37 AM (2ZN97)
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What were the stupid bitches doing there in the first place? Too bad they didn't get the chop.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 22, 2007 08:59 AM (eGb9y)
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True. true. But everyone wishes to fuck the president. The democrats try it everyday.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 22, 2007 10:37 AM (2ZN97)
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Speaking of fucking, I found a picture of Gayrooster:
http://www.break.com/pictures/feb21gal34.html
Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 22, 2007 02:03 PM (ZxuJ4)
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USA! ALL THE WAY! USA! ALL THE WAY! USA! ALL THE WAY! USA! ALL THE WAY! USA! ALL THE WAY!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 23, 2007 01:03 PM (2OHpj)
I wish I could match your spelling and debating skills.
We both know you're smaller than me. Play with yourself, pussy.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 25, 2007 02:33 AM (Dt3sl)
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"I wish I could match your spelling and debating skills."
First you have to have skills to begin with. Start there.
"We both know you're smaller than me. Play with yourself, pussy."
I'm not shorter than you, Napoleon-Buttholz, physically or mentally. You still only deserve a bag of flaming poo on your front porch. Although, I'm sure you'd prefer a delivery at your back door.
Posted by: osamabinhiding at February 25, 2007 03:32 PM (JVqe0)
Video: American Soldier Held Hostage in Iraq Alive (bumped)
A video posted on a Shiite Islamist website has emerged of an American soldier, Spc. Ahmed K. Altaie, being held hostage. The Jawa Report has obtained the ORIGINAL copy of the video. It is posted below.
Right after Altaie was captured by forces allegedly tied to the Mahdi Army, a relative contacted The Jawa Report. I won't identify her out of respect for what she is going through, but she was depressed that the media had written her relative off and wrote to ask if we really believed he was still alive. I'm very glad that he is.
Altaie was born in Iraq but immigrated to the United States. Even though he was much older than the average U.S. serviceman, he volunteered right after the Iraq war broke out. He felt it was his duty to help the effort and his native language skills were much needed. Not only that, but here was a chance to serve both his adopted country and the country of his birth.
A Shiite militant group has issued a video of an Iraqi-American soldier who was kidnapped nearly four months ago while visiting his wife in downtown Baghdad, a U.S. television network reported Wednesday.
The U.S. government has offered a $50,000 reward leading to the recovery of Iraqi-born American Army translator Ahmed Qusai al-Taayie, a 41-year-old reserve soldier from Ann Arbor, Mich., who was abducted by gunmen on Oct. 23.
The video was broadcast by CNN and it was unclear when it was made. Al-Taayie's uncle identified him from the video, the network said. The video did not immediately turn up in an Associated Press search of militant Web sites.
Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, chief U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, said officials were aware of the video and were analyzing a copy of it to ascertain its authenticity.
A huge search operation turned up no solid leads to the fate of al-Taayie, who was visiting his Iraqi wife when he was handcuffed and taken away by gunmen during a visit to the woman's family.
Al-Taayie's uncle, Entifadh Qanbar, said at the time that he believed his nephew's abductors belong to a "well-organized" rogue cell from the Shiite Mahdi Army militia of cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Thanks for posting the video Rusty. I honestly thought the soldier was dead since he hadn't been shown in a video in four months. I'm glad the captors finally proved their hostage is still alive. I think Ahmed's uncle will eventually pay ransom. I also think the name used by Ahmed's captors is a fake and that the Mehdi Army is the group that's holding him. It is strange that they would wait four months to provide proof of life but I'm glad they finally did. And yes, Greyrooster, Ahmed was stupid to leave the greenzone but we can't leave him in the Mehdi Army's hands. We never leave a captive soldier behind. Don't count Keith Matthew Maupin though since he is dead in my opinion. The Al-Jazeera execution video of Keith is authentic uin my opinion.
Posted by: Michael Whitaker at February 14, 2007 10:26 AM (SYd2E)
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Thanks for posting the video Rusty. I honestly thought the soldier was dead since he hadn't been shown in a video in four months. I'm glad the captors finally proved their hostage is still alive. I think Ahmed's uncle will eventually pay ransom. I also think the name used by Ahmed's captors is a fake and that the Mehdi Army is the group that's holding him. It is strange that they would wait four months to provide proof of life but I'm glad they finally did. And yes, Greyrooster, Ahmed was stupid to leave the Green Zone but we can't leave him in the Mehdi Army's hands. We never leave a captive soldier behind. Don't count Keith Matthew Maupin though since he is dead in my opinion. The Al-Jazeera execution video of Keith is authentic in my opinion.
Posted by: Michael Whitaker at February 14, 2007 10:27 AM (SYd2E)
Posted by: Jonathan Marks at February 14, 2007 11:09 AM (Nhfns)
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God watch over him and all coalition servicemen and women.
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 14, 2007 11:19 AM (vixLB)
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My hunch is that his captors are scared of the "troop surge." Altaie has been held for months. Why the proof of life now? I think they're looking to make a deal.
I think he will be returned or rescued. I sure hope I'm right.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 14, 2007 02:47 PM (Dt3sl)
Posted by: Michael Whitaker at February 14, 2007 03:25 PM (SYd2E)
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And thank you Rusty for edting that retard Jonathan Marks. Ahmed is an Arab but he volunteered to join our fine Army and deserves to be rescued. He's still an American and I hope he is freed unharmed.
Posted by: Michael Whitaker at February 14, 2007 03:27 PM (SYd2E)
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I hate to think of any American troops dying because he decided to visis his wife. Sometimes in life you make your own bed. Then you must lie in it. Asking others to die for your poor decisions is something I would not do. Besides, he's a muslim. Who can tell what was on his mind.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 15, 2007 09:05 AM (Lddpk)
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Your kinda right Rooster, but as you know I had the unfortunate misfortune of having to lie in the bed that my Father in Law, Norman Kember made, a poor decision maybe but Norman knew that before and after and I still feel that although what some may say that the enevitable happened I stand by him and his convictions.
The trouble with these hostage takers is the unpredictabilty, they probably feel that themselves but the ball is well and truely in their court! Why release a video after four long months when most had given Ahmed up for dead? Ransom? Own personal gain? The need to rid themselves of Ahmed? Only they know and I pray for his safety and for his family to find inner strength just like I did at the time of Normans ordeal.
Ian
Posted by: Ian Thomas at February 15, 2007 03:00 PM (EDPQD)
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Always two side to every story. Good luck to you Ian.
Posted by: greyrooster at February 15, 2007 07:39 PM (Lddpk)
German Intelligence Working With Iraqi Terrorists?
Some of you may remember, a German archaeologists held hostage briefly in Iraq. She was released amongst a number of rumors that ransom had been paid. There was even some indication that she had collaborated with her hostage takers, because some of the marked money was allegedly found on her after she was free. Now, more indication that she may have been complicit in her own kidnapping, and at least two secret agents from the German government as well.
Wherever the truth lies, it's a strange case. And it is now certain that, despite denials of it, German intelligence had a presence on the ground during and after the Iraq invasion.
What exactly is the German foreign intelligence service, the BND, doing in Iraq? Although the public has had occasion to be aware of the BND presence, up until now most will have been led to believe that the BND has been "quietly" cooperating with American and coalition authorities. Even more skeptical observers will have assumed that it is at least not cooperating with America's enemies in the country. But a photograph published earlier this month in the German weekly Stern provides disturbing evidence that it is doing precisely that....
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Before and during WW2, some of the most enthusiastic Nazi's were arabs,
and there were even muslim SS divisions, so everything old is new again.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at January 26, 2007 06:09 AM (eGb9y)
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Rusty you are so fucking stupid. She did not fake her kidnapping. Anyway your article is biased.
Posted by: Samuel Fisher at January 26, 2007 09:34 AM (SYd2E)
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Not as biased as the Germans. Why did she have ransom money on her? Lefturd articles are never biased? Grow up.
Posted by: greyrooster at January 26, 2007 09:57 AM (w+w6p)
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How much money? They gave Jill Carroll money too for her laptop and the trouble. As I recall they were very cheap and only gave her a small amount much less than she deserved just to make themselves feel better I guess
Posted by: Howie at January 26, 2007 11:17 AM (2cR/Y)
Jeffrey Ake Fund(bumped)
Lilana Ake’s church has started a fund to try and help her avoid having to sell their home. Via John Byrne at the Post Tribune:
Carl Galloway, pastor of LaPorte Missionary Church, said the congregation decided to ramp up its fund-raising efforts after learning Ake had put her home on the market.
Ake's husband, Jeffrey, has been missing in Iraq since April 2005, when he was abducted by gunmen near Baghdad.
"We have been supporting Lilly since Jeff was kidnapped," Galloway said. "It's a strange situation, because Lilly can't draw any of Jeff's benefits since nobody knows what has happened to him."
Ake, the mother of four young children, recently started bankruptcy proceedings for Equipment Express, the Rolling Prairie water bottling company Jeffrey Ake founded and ran until he was kidnapped.
She also put her LaPorte home on the market, saying she could not afford to stay there.
Ake recently earned her Realtor's license and got a job, Galloway said.
"The objective isn't to get her rich," Galloway said. "The goal is to get Lilly through the next few months, get her on her feet, until some money starts coming in."
Below I have the address where you can send donations. Further contact information at the Post Tribune.
Tax-deductible contributions can be sent to.
LaPorte Missionary Church :Jeffrey Ake Fund
LaPorte Missionary Church
Attn: Carl Galloway
104 E. 18th St., LaPorte, IN 46350
Please spread the information around your blog, church bulletins, Mosques, Synagogues, gas stations and favorite greasy spoons. Please do what you can. No matter how small your donation is they all add up.
Update: Bumped, originally posted 01/13/07. Just to remind myself to send my paltry sum this week. Have you send your paltry sum yet? My paltry sum added to your paltry sum an make a differnce. I was able to get the word to three churches too, hopefully that will help. Keep your findgers crossed.
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