1 JD's comment deleted.

Reason: Violation of TOS, TPS Reports allowed.

2 You want blasphemy. Try this:

Mohammed just pulled that verse out of his butt just like the rest of the Koran (maybe flushing it is the best use for it).
Taqiyya is obviously an integral part of Islam and has been employed from the beginning. What the followers of Allah don't realize is that it is being employed on them too.

3 Rusty: Could you decode that for me?

4 Was this verse originally part of Chapter 53 in the Koran (the names of the daughters are mentioned there), or was that chapter "revealed" afterwards in order to prove these were not angels either?

5 Henry, I'm appalled at your blasphemy.

Why would Mohammed lie? Mohammed was only a Prophet. He got a message. It looked legit. He went with it. How was he supposed to know whether the message was from Allah or from Satan? You think he had a super-secret Gabriel decoder ring or something?

Surely Satan deceived Mohammed in order to get a Mohammedan shout out to his three girlfriends, not realizing that this little joke would have the completely unintended effect of encouraging thousands of non-Muslim Quraysh to convert to Islam.

This happened because "Satan is cunning" and because "Satan is a fool." You see, Satan was cunning enough to fool Mohammed, but not cunning enough to know what would happen after he did so.

It's just a good thing Satan wasn't more active in deceiving Mohammed. Otherwise, the perfect truth of the Koran might have been corrupted.

6 Rusty, what the fuck? You censored? You, who spends so much time bitching about people who won't print cartoons of the prophet getting a blow job from a camel? (I'm with you in that fight?)

What did I say? Everything I posted was true, about the mormon revelatory experience with the prophet. I don't know what those acronyms stand for. Do they stand for: I'm a hypocrite?

7 Rusty, what the fuck? You censored? You, who spends so much time bitching about people who won't print cartoons of the prophet getting a blow job from a camel? (I'm with you in that fight.)

What did I say? Everything I posted was true, about the mormon revelatory experience with the prophet. I don't know what those acronyms stand for. Do they stand for: I'm a hypocrite?

8 All I said was if we are going to mock Islam for its pagan roots and its suspiciously convenient revelations during the life of the prophet, what about:

The Mormon church, which up until 1978 preached that blacks had the Mark of Cain, and did not allow blacks to become priests. Then Prophet Spencer Kimball had a revelation that God was okay with black people, just at the time it was becoming very difficult for the BYU football team to play teams with blacks.

And the earlier, very convenient revelation to Joseph Smith II, that polygamy wasn't God's plan, after polygamy had been officially sanctioned and practiced by earlier prophets Brigham Young and Joseph Smith. Skeptics noted that Smith II's revelation came after Congress rejected the state of Deseret's application for admission because of Polygamy and after the Supreme Court ruled that polygamy wasn't protected by the First Amendment.

And as for mainstream Christians...don't mock the pagan roots of Islam as revealed in this moon goddess incident unless you know the etymology and history of "Easter"...

What is so worthy of censor about this indisputable facts, Rusty?

9 And if you really want your head to explode, read up on the Mithra cults that predated Christianity and had many of the elements of the Jesus story exactly the same. If Mohammed flirted with paganism, the writers of the gospels plagiarized...

10 A.)Who cares what Easter used to be if I use it now to celebrate the ressurection of Christ? Jesus is indeed my reason for the season. Whatever it was, I'm telling you what it now is.

Saying Easter is a Pagan Holiday as if it meant something would be like arguing with President Bush "Well you know, Baghdad used to be owned by Saddam Hussein before the Coalition sacked it". Well yes, that's sort of the idea. It was there's *pagans, Saddams" now, it's OURS "Christ, Coalition".

B.) The Mithras legend does not really parallel Christianity if you study it in depth, and those elements that do appear more similiar were added AFTER the time of Christ. Most of the "similiarity" between the two comes, however, whe you study the original translations of the Mithras text ATTEMPTING to find a correlation to Christianity, and add in Biblical terminology like "salvation" and "resurrection" where it is a stretch to do so. One frequently encounters scholars who first use Christian terminology to describe pagan beliefs and practices and then marvel at the awesome parallels they think they have discovered.

Mithraic scholars, you see, do not hold a candle for the thesis that Christianity borrowed anything philosophically from Mithraism, and they do not see any evidence of such borrowing, with one major exception: The only domain in which we can ascertain in detail the extent to which Christianity imitated Mithraism is that of art. We are talking here not of apostolic Christianity, note well, but of Christianity in the third and fourth centuries, which, in an effort to prove that their faith was the superior one, embarked on an advertising campaign reminiscent of our soft drink wars. Mithra was depicted slaying a bull while riding its back; the church did a lookalike scene with Samson killing a lion. Mithra sent arrows into a rock to bring forth water; the church changed that into Moses getting water from the rock at Horeb. (Hmm, did the Jews copy that one?) I hope I didn't make a TPS report here.

11 Falcon--I'm no Mithra scholar, so I only know what I read. I'll look into it.

what is a TPS report?

12 Maybe you should be more discerning of what you read, instead of just taking what tickles your ear as proven fact. For more information on TPS Reports, please see "Office Space".