April 05, 2005
But I thought it was the other way around? Bush=Hitler, neocon cabal, Patriot act gulags, etc....?
Wrong. The name Michael J. Bryant should send more chills up your spine than John Ashcroft ever did. Captain Ed has the goods.
UPDATE: Either the Canadians have gotten to Ed or he's way over his bandwidth limit. His site is down. Here is the article in question.
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Posted by: Collin Baber at April 05, 2005 06:36 PM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: Rusty Shackleford at April 05, 2005 08:47 PM (ywZa8)
Posted by: john at April 05, 2005 08:50 PM (MIa98)
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Posted by: Collin Baber at April 05, 2005 11:48 PM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: Suburbanguy at April 06, 2005 12:49 AM (kBfY4)
EU is exactly what Hitler dreamt of, a unified Europe with Germans pretty much running the show (well the French too... sort of), yes. But the conquest happened in peaceful ways and by frightening countries with the possibility of Soviet or US invasion, if they didn't group up against em. And now EU also has most money, oil, weapons of mass destruction and the largest, most efficient military force in the world, so I think it's time we determine how we'll share USA with Russia, once all Europe is unified (much like Germany was divided after the Ruskies took Hitlers body, stuffed it and put it on display in the Lenin Museum in St.Petersborough (Leningrad)).
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:48 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:51 AM (cWMi4)
Captain Ed is up over 400,000 visitors a day, so his server is chugging a little. Apparently Hosting Matters did some tweaking, and it's back up and reasonably quick.
Posted by: Pixy Misa at April 06, 2005 04:52 AM (+S1Ft)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 04:58 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: Mr. K at April 06, 2005 05:50 AM (IseOd)
Nice of you to join us.
John Aschroft was the strange Attorney General who was obsessed with dressing naked statues.
Are you advocating using military force against the United States?
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:06 AM (fufbw)
Collin: Well then Johnie-boy was a funny man, not a fascist =), perhaps a bit insane though, if he was dead-serious.
And using military force against United States is very much an option if your wars keep becoming more and more frequent as they have done during the Bush-periods.(not periods as in periods, even though blood has been spilt a lot during those times)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:21 AM (cWMi4)
This would naturally lead into a "fuck this, if America doesn't exist, neither will the rest of the world"-effect, which is launching nukes from your large, empty areas somewhere in the middle. So military offence to actually destroy the country rather than to kill all its military personnel abroad, that actually causes a threat, seems unlikely until an effective anti-missile defence system is developed.
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:43 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 06:47 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 07:03 AM (fufbw)
1. A source of harm or ruin
2. Retributive justice in its execution or outcome
3. An opponent that cannot be beaten or overcome.
4. One that inflicts retribution or vengeance.
5. Also the goddess of retributive justice or vengeance.
6. Perhaps what Russia is to USA
7. Also perhaps your term for me
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 08:08 AM (lGolT)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 08:09 AM (lGolT)
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 08:14 AM (fufbw)
Chris
Posted by: Chris at April 06, 2005 08:17 AM (bBPpv)
Google "Ernst Zundel". He made the "outrageous" claim that fewer than 6,000,000 Jews died in WWII. He has since been extradited to Germany where they also put people in prison for "thought crime".
If the "Juice" have their way it will soon be like that in the US too. While the truth needs no laws to support it, dogma requires laws to protect it from the light of day.
I suspect that only 5,999,999 Juice died in WWII. That should infuriate you Zionazis into a spiraling hysteria.
And don't give me that anti-semite shit. Freedom of thought and speech is more important than hurting the feelings of the Juice.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 09:00 AM (/+dAV)
Zundel wasn't imprisoned by joooos. He was imprisoned by the Leftist Canadian government.
As you know, the jooos run America, but it's no crime here to deny the Holocaust.
Conclusion: Leftists, not jooos, are a threat to freedom.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:12 AM (tFXpR)
Obviously it was the Jewish Lobby that pushed and had these laws passed. Don't think for a second that rightists won't succumb to the same pressure.
For your information, Zundel was living in Tennessee when America extradited him to Canada first.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 09:23 AM (/+dAV)
Greg,
I guess that's what happens to jooos living in Leftist countries. They start acting like Leftists. Canadian Leftism brings out the totalitarian in all Canadians, not just the jooos. To the point where they ban Fox news and throw preachers in jail for citing Scripture. What a frightening society the Leftists are creating up there. Zundel is paying the price.
But in America, our jooos act like free men living in a free country. So you see, it's culture and tradition and ideology which determine how people will behave, not joooishness.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:41 AM (tFXpR)
And Zundel does not merely claim less than 6 million jews were killed. He denies the Holocaust happenned. He's a nazi, and he makes no bones about it.
"I have interviewed Zundel more than once, and have even debated him. In one such encounter, he was forthright about who he was. "Are you a National Socialest?" I asked him. He replied that he was. "Nazi is the short form for National Socialest, Mr. Zundel. Is that what you are? A Nazi?" The answer: "Yes." He was not ashamed of it."
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/words_extremism_rz.htm
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:51 AM (tFXpR)
Zundel fought hard, flooding the courts with motions and appeals, but he saw the writing on the wall. In December 2000, the Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear any more of his increasingly-arcane legal arguments in the case. A few weeks later, Zundel fled to the United States - where, in a letter issued by one of his lawyers, he renounced his permanent residency status. There, he devoted himself to his Zundelsite, defying a Canadian Human Rights Tribunal order to remove hateful material.
http://www.warrenkinsella.com/words_extremism_rz.htm
U.S. INS agents arrested him at his home outside Knoxville, Tennessee after he had fled Canada Zundel had overstayed his visitor's visa, and the Americans - understandably - wanted him to leave.
So he was extradited because he violated his visa. Had he not done so, it's quite likely he'd still be here stirring up trouble like we allow our jihadists and Arab apologists on the Left to.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 09:56 AM (tFXpR)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:02 AM (lGolT)
I'm simply agreeing with Rusty.
You've have done your homework. What you say about his ciitizenship process is correct. He supposedlly missed an appointment which he denies.
First of all there is a Jewish Lobby in Germany. There is an International Jewiish Lobby whose jurisdiction would include Germany.
Secondly, so what if he's a Nazi. Should that be against the law if he's not being violent? Zundel is a painter of pictures. A peaceful man who loves Germany. No one has ever accused him of being violent. To the contrary his house was burned down to the ground in Canada. Good guess is that it was done by a Jew.
The notion of "thought crimes" iis undemocratic no matter how you slice it.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:09 AM (/+dAV)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:11 AM (lGolT)
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 10:14 AM (lGolT)
I agree with your basic premise that he's committed no crime, but what I'm saying is that this kind of repression comes naturally to socialest societies, not to conservative ones.
Re the "international joooish lobby," notice how even though they've supposedly taken this country to war against our own interests (say you folks), they have yet to create the climate of repression you claim they have in socialest countries. How is that possible? Not very likely. If jooos can take us to war, they can pass a few hate crime laws.
My conclusion: Leftism is the culprit re Zundel and Germany, not joooishism.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:18 AM (tFXpR)
As you know we do have hate laws in America so it's a slippery slope. Blame the leftists including the Jewish left who were instrumental in having these laws passed. God help us if a machine is invented that reads minds. Anyone of us could be made into a "thought criminal".
The right is guilty too. There is a movement by the right to make "political paranoia" a bonafied pyschological disorder requiring commmitment to mental hospitals. That's what the Soviets did to their dissidents. If you think it's all about the left you're not being fair.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:32 AM (/+dAV)
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:38 AM (/+dAV)
I can only worry about what I actually see happenning, and I only talk to you about what I actually see happenning, i.e., Canada. But you want to create hysteria about what MIGHT happen in the future, which usually never ever comes to pass anyway.
Re laws against "political paranoia", that must be a colorful way of putting it because I have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:40 AM (tFXpR)
“If you’re still convinced that President Bush won the election because Republicans figured out a way to hack into electronic voting machines, you’ve obviously got a problem,†says Smith. “If we can figure out a way to ease your suffering by getting you into therapy and onto medication, that’s something that we hope the entire 109th Congress will support.â€
Characterizing political dissent as a form of mental illness is the hallmark of authoritarian government. In China, for instance, forensic psychiatrists label dissent “political lunacy†(see Jacob Sullum, Head Games: What are the rules for defining mental illness?) and in Soviet Russia political dissenters were routinely cosigned to mental hospitals. Nowadays, with modern pharmacology, mental hospitals are no longer requiredthe mental hospital is internalized through chemical intervention.
No need for FEMA camps or “preventive detention†when we have a “medical armamentarium†of serotonin uptake inhibitors. All that is needed now is for Frist and the Republicans to devise a law defining “political paranoia†and determining that “political paranoiacs†are a threat to society.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 10:51 AM (/+dAV)
are you citing the Onion? Sure sounds that way.
Here's what I think. If true, then this is a prank by Frist. If we can get Libs suffering from post-election stress trauma (PEST) to take their meds and get reimbursed for it, then the jokes on them. That's all this is-- a big joke on the loons. Even if the so-called legislation fails to pass, the point has been made and the joke's on them. It's a prank.
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 10:58 AM (tFXpR)
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:05 AM (/+dAV)
Posted by: Carlos at April 06, 2005 11:07 AM (tFXpR)
I've been bumped off the site.
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Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:15 AM (/+dAV)
www.refuseandresist.org/police_state/art.php?aid=1495
just google "bush t-shirt arrest"
Thank God it's a "free country" huh?
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:16 AM (/+dAV)
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:17 AM (/+dAV)
www.buzzflash.com/alerts/04/10/ale04068.html
The MSM has been silent/complicit on this.
Posted by: greg at April 06, 2005 11:41 AM (/+dAV)
USA's system is more like an oligarky, a system where the richest control and select the people in charge, and therefore hold the ultimate power in the nation.
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 12:01 PM (lGolT)
Most of the large scale anti-Bush gatherings must've been organized by the democrats or a large operation determined to disrupt order, therefore it is necessary for your government to take offensive measures and perhaps violate the principles of freedom of speech. When such movements are allowed to grow in a country pretty much crawling with newspeople, it would get publicity and keep growing. It has been seen what that leads into:
During the Cold War people went red all over, and when it got too big, you started attacking countries turning red and threw all reds in your country to jail. This kind of politics is exactly why people around the world started hating your country, and that is why all such large, contraversial operations are held in secret or suppressed with imprisonments. (Also, if enough people go anti-Bush, they go pro-democrat/liberal/greenparty, and then there won't be another republican president for 30 years, so---wouldn't really bother me--- the country would be heavily divided in half)
And you have pretty much no gun restrictions, so who knows what kind of army might pop up in the event of disorderly conduct spreading through the nation.
Posted by: A Finn at April 06, 2005 12:17 PM (lGolT)
Posted by: Mr. K at April 06, 2005 05:27 PM (bbOr3)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:33 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:37 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:42 PM (CBNGy)
Now send me those drugs or feel the wrath of THOR. A Norweigan/Swede. The ultimate human.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 05:48 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 06:21 PM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 07:03 PM (CBNGy)
No football, no basketball, no baseball. Just reindeer milking contests. I can see how you can get bored. I hear there's a big snow shoveling contest in Helsinki this weekend. Go for it.
Now will you share?
Posted by: greyrooster at April 06, 2005 07:10 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: SPQR at April 06, 2005 07:30 PM (xauGB)
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 06, 2005 08:42 PM (FV4oJ)
Posted by: Brad at April 06, 2005 08:59 PM (ywZa8)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 12:21 AM (CBNGy)
Posted by: Collin Baber at April 07, 2005 12:35 AM (FV4oJ)
Besides, we had baseball before you did, it was called kössipallo, and it wasn't running around in a diamond shape thingie, it was in a zigzag-and-back-pattern. The national sport now is a variation of kössipallo, pesäpallo, same zigzag, but the passes go directly upward and there are lines within which the ball must touch if the strike isn't foul.
AND, bwahahaaa, the first time we entered the American Football World Championships, we WON the whole tournament and became the world champions with less than a years game experience. (Guess we're naturally brawlers or have a strong killer instinct)
Basketball is fun, sort of, but not very popular around here. Last, no I won't get you drugs, since I would have to go 100miles east to Russia to get cheap ones without being in some diagnosed state of insanity (once more: department of health in Oulu can be notified, if you consider me insane. They'll arrange a psychologist session, and you have to pay for it, if I don't turn out to be insane. If, however, my mental state is questionable, I will most likely recieve medication treatment, and you will be notified of it).
Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:36 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 06:47 AM (QYx/q)
Bet he knows exactly where it is. Experience? Advanced social services. I guess they are needed in a country with a mediocre standand of living. No immigration problems. No minority problems. Doesn't do shit for the rest of the world and the best Finland can come up with is mediocrity. Little dogs should wag their tails, not yap at the big dog doing something other than yapping.
Yap, Lap. Rhymes.
Remember the big dog rules.
(1) Ignore them.
(2) Piss on them
(3) Turn and beat the shit out of them.
You get a (1).
For now.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 08:18 AM (CBNGy)
...didn't know Rapalas were known in US. And also, we sold the main vodka distributers and producers to Sweden, since people seem to prefer what they make themself.
No, I have never seen a psychologist, it's just useless bullshit, and mediocre is hell of a lot better than having 5% rich people and 95% working as their slaves and living in shitty appartments using all their money to pay for credit card bills.
Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 09:37 AM (lGolT)
95% of the people in this country are "poor"? Compared to what? I daresay that the 95% "poor" people in the U.S. still manage to eat pretty well, have at LEAST one car, decent clothes, and have a 250-channel satellite dish (misspent money on the last one, in my opinion). Much of the world wishes it were this "poor."
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 09:50 AM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 10:00 AM (ZCYWE)
"Ni puhu suome" is actually : Yeah, speak Finnish! in a Turku-slang kind of way. Bet you heard that in Runescape... I understand the language is hard, even Russians, who have been living right (or left perhaps...) next door still can't understand Finnish well enough to translate whatever comes out of Finnish TV-system to their side of the border and complain how this and that insults their country and then get annoyed when it was actually something completely different.
Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 10:36 AM (lGolT)
Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 11:14 AM (bGceG)
Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 01:21 PM (lGolT)
You have television in Finland? I quess that's another of your inventions. You know TV, Telephone, computer.
By the way. Has Finland ever given anything to the rest of the world by way of invention? Or do you merely claim to be well educated but never had a first idea in your countries history? News for you chump. Supposed to be well educated claim doesn't hold water. What world renowned university is in Finland? Do foreign students beg, borrow and steal to get into your universities as they do in America.
Talk about dogs. Take a look at your president.
Talk about the big dog?
That deserves a (2).
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 01:22 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: greg at April 07, 2005 01:39 PM (/+dAV)
Please remember you came onto this American owned and operated Blog and immediately downgraded peoples religious preferences. Then you started in on America's policies. Next was our elected leaders. Discussiion is one thing. Degrating ones country is another. There is much wrong in America. Most of us will agree. Much of what our president is doing is suspect, excluding the war where I feel he is right on. Feel free to suggest, but keep your criticism until you can understand the complexity of America.
Easy to throw stones when you sit by the wayside. Do nothing, you may no mistakes but get nowhere. Our young people are sacrificing themselves for what is right. Some are getting a feel ride in this war against Islamofacism. Not a proud thing.
You have had much to say that I agree with. But your method sucks.
Also you refuse to share.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 01:42 PM (CBNGy)
Anyway, "the Senate and the people of Rome"... perhaps you mean that Rome collapsed because it had become a wellfair state, that didn't pay attention to military threats? (No, I won't eat shit, thats just sick (or beyond kinky if you feel that stuff might actually be something sexual))
Actually, Europeans (not saying that I am not one) have started trying to get into Finland to study after we got first place in all things PISA examined and became some sort of a role model for their countries' education system development. And Esko Aho, a former Finnish prime minister, is actually a professor in either Yale or Harvard, teaching economics, so that makes me seriously concerned about the quality of your renowned university, even if that guy is an extremely skilled businessfellow, who managed to make the country profit from the eighties when all other countries were suffering of depression. And our current president IS most likely a mix of dog and bald rat, now we never have to have any women in charge. (When did I say Finns invented TV, computers and telephones (this one was Alexander Bell, I believe...)? Just said Nokia makes computers, and I got one instead of a Jap-comp or something made in India, that you call American computers)
And greyrooster: Ok, I'll try finding some drugs for you if I happen to take a cruise ship to Estonia this summer. The war in Iraq could've been avoided by assassinating Saddam and having the UN send peacecorps (that would've been you and Finns, as we are usually more than happy to go on military missions approved by the UN, good practice, and since have no real enemies, casualties are low) to control the masses now lacking a leader.
I don't like Bush, I think he only got elected since his daddy was a president before him, and now he is trying make himself a better man than his father was in handling the Middle East crisises, so he is doing what is right the wrong way (I think this guy was the only elected leader of yours I've mentioned). The attack on religion was later explained in the Pope is dead/dying thingie as an attempt to find out what God really was to the actual people living in a country, were religion effects everything. American policies are pretty much the same as which ones are running the show for the... 6, 5, 10, 12 years?, so basically that would be anti-Bush... or something like that.
Nice going with making Arnold Schwartzenegger, made me want to go to California to check out the Terminator preaching about the importance of protecting the environment. Seriously, excellent. Shows that anyone famous enough can get immense power over a state, even if not born in US or Canada. Maybe I'll try to become the senator of Delaware once I... create a action-movie career or win American Idol on the year I'm running for senator.
Posted by: A Finn at April 07, 2005 02:45 PM (lGolT)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 03:03 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:04 PM (NzgK/)
It was 100 Finnmarks for the fine, that was in '93.
Posted by: Mr. K at April 07, 2005 03:24 PM (niPww)
As they started loading the plane for the return trip,the pilot said the plane could only take 4 reindeer.
The two Finns objected strongly. "Last year we shot 6,and the pilot let us put them all on board; he had the same plane as yours."
Reluctantly, the pilot gave in and all 6 were loaded. However, even on full power, the little plane couldn't handle the load and went down a few moments after take-off.
Climbing out of the wreck one Finn asked the other,"Any idea where we are?"
"Yaaaah I think were pretty close to where we crashed last year.."
Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 03:26 PM (NzgK/)
A couple of Finns are out in the woods hunting when one of them
suddenly grabs his chest and falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing. His eyes are rolled back in his head.
The other Finn whips out his cell phone and calls 911.
He gasps to the operator, "I think Sven is dead! What should I do?"
The operator, in a calm soothing voice says, "Just take it easy and
follow my instructions. First, let's make sure he's dead."
There is a silence...... and then a shot is heard.
The second Finn's voice comes back on the line, "Okay, now what?"
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:02 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:02 PM (x+5JB)
He does seem pretty worldly though. I posted something above on the stripper
band and he seemed to know quite a bit about it.(this was before I realized he was a kid).
Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:09 PM (NzgK/)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:13 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:29 PM (NzgK/)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 04:39 PM (x+5JB)
Posted by: Brad at April 07, 2005 04:47 PM (NzgK/)
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 07, 2005 06:21 PM (SENte)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:30 PM (CBNGy)
I will be back in a few days. Hope to chat more with you then.
I have a long drive to Venice, La. Gone fishing. We try to leave the dock at 4:00 AM. Tuna will be on the menu. Will be back when the fish quits biting or my back gives out.
By the way. How do you get a one armed Finlander out of a tree?
Wave to him.
Posted by: greyrooster at April 07, 2005 10:55 PM (CBNGy)
Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 03:58 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:02 AM (cWMi4)
Posted by: A Finn at April 08, 2005 04:05 AM (cWMi4)
Take care!
Posted by: Young Bourbon Professional at April 08, 2005 12:38 PM (x+5JB)
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