April 18, 2007
The Savannah Morning News is pushing the "worst mass murder" line:
Little is known about the shooter who killed 31 people and apparently wounded another 29 in the worst mass murder in U.S. history.
The San Jose Mercury News is selling the same story:
When I awoke the next morning, the name of the perpetrator of the nation's worst mass murder was all over the news, and I had another reaction: Oh, no. He's Asian.
...the father, also named Juan Ramon Ortiz, learned hours later that his son was one of the 32 people gunned down in the worst mass murder in US history.
Seemingly within minutes of Cho Seung-Hui killing himself and bringing the worst mass murder in U.S. history to an end, Virginia Tech president Charles Steger and Police Chief Wendell Flinchum came under a barrage of criticism for not locking down the campus after the first double murder two hours before the main shooting spree began.
Andrew Williams of West Windsor walked out of the building at Virginia Tech minutes before the killer showed up and started shooting, committing the worst mass murder in U.S. history.
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer blog is closer to the mark, but not by much:
Virginia Tech's students are in horrific shock after the second-worst mass murder in American history. No doubt CNN has a wide range of highly respected authorities to call upon, people could lend some perspective, wisdom and the appropriate solemnity to the day's news.
Truth is, the Virginia Tech shooting rampage, while tragic, was not "the worst mass murder in U.S. history." It wasn't the "second worst mass murder in U.S. history," or even the third, or the fourth.
The 9/11 attacks (2,998 deaths), the Oklahoma City bombing (168 deaths), the HappyLand arson (87 deaths) and the Bath, Michigan bombing (45 deaths) all claimed more victims than the Virginia Tech shootings (32 deaths).
But, as Vinnie noted yesterday, those events don't fit neatly into the anti-gun political agenda, so they need to go down the memory hole, thereby leaving the Virginia Tech shootings as "the worst mass murder in U.S. history," with Charles Whitman's shooting rampage taking a close second.
Cross-posted to TheArsenal.
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Posted by: Mike the Marine at April 18, 2007 03:17 PM (MazcJ)
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Posted by: Randman at April 18, 2007 05:23 PM (Sal3J)
What fascinates so many of us are individual mass killers. Even there, I see a clear difference between bombers (and to some degree arsonists) and shooters: you cannot defend yourself against a bomber. Determined intended victims, though, can fight back against shooters. Their chances go up significantly, of course, if they possess a numerical advantage or are armed.
A GFW might even argue argue against advocating carry, on the grounds that if carrying becomes widespread, bombings will increase.
I would counter that these goblins need to see their victims face to face, and may even have specific targets picked out that a bomb might miss. The Columbine boys were prepared to use bombs, but they had to personally lord it over their victims first.
Posted by: refugee at April 18, 2007 05:47 PM (ya+0h)
Posted by: Reno John at April 18, 2007 06:04 PM (cl1Cf)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 18, 2007 06:26 PM (MTHRd)
Posted by: wooga at April 18, 2007 07:50 PM (t9sT5)
Posted by: greyrooster at April 18, 2007 08:06 PM (MTHRd)
Posted by: wooga at April 18, 2007 11:54 PM (2YapR)
Posted by: Ali at April 19, 2007 12:42 AM (hDlfX)
Posted by: jake caywood's father at April 19, 2007 04:36 AM (elEnw)
Not wanting to get SUED.
They're gonna get sued NOW, though- you can bet on it.
Posted by: Barry at April 19, 2007 05:38 AM (kKjaJ)
Posted by: Barry at April 19, 2007 05:40 AM (kKjaJ)
Wooga: I long ago figured what you said above is correct. I don't have a problem with it. Asians are more serious about education and their parents (who are probably married) demand a lot from them.
Case in point in taking minority spots on only in school but in public jobs. My company did a lot of work for the city of San Jose, Ca. We dealt with the architectural/engineering division. About 50 employees. 80% minority but not one black. The Asians/Hispanics were just overwhelmingly more qualified. Sort of defeats the purpose of minority set asides since the asians I worked with didn't consider themselves minorities. Why don't they just call them black hiring requirements. That was the orginal intent. Then again do we need more city governments like New Orleans? Black and totally incompetent. My own firm was 70% Asian/Hispanic including one Turk and one Indian (India type). Never could find the black I needed to help get minority set asides required in the bay area. Tried two. They couldn't hack it. When you complete with a Chinese Engineer you have to get up early because they will. What they lack in natural ability they make up for in enthusiasm. Didn't hurt in San Francisco either. Asians like to hire asians. They trust each others work ethic. I just went along for the ride and took care of the banking.
yea, yea. I know. I'm a racist. Going to have some T-shirts made that says "proud to be white" or perhaps "100% white" or maybe "by any means neccessary". Then I'll really be a racist. Just like who????
Posted by: greyrooster at April 19, 2007 06:54 AM (xL+Ra)
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