FBI Seize Goose Creek Suspect's Computer
Okay, so is this now a full blown terror investigation? SP Times:
Investigators have removed computers from the family home of a University of South Florida student accused of having pipe bombs in his car, according to Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.
He said the FBI contacted the parents of Yousseff Samir Megahed of 4959 Anniston Circle, Tampa, who were on vacation, and got permission to search their home. When they returned, their computers were gone.
Plot thickens. The story also suggests that one of his roommates, from Mauritania, has now left the country. I wonder if that should read fled the country?
I'm guessing the FBI is looking for jihad related material on his computer. Hat tip: Liz.
Al Qaeda Cell in America?
Threats made by Adam Gadahn in his new al Qaeda video are getting some people nervous. I wouldn't be as worried about the American traitor's threats as I would be about new information which suggests that the failed Glasgow/London suicide bombers had contacts in the U.S.
Okay, worried may be too strong a word. Amused? Yeah, that's the word. Because if the al Qaeda cell in the U.S. received the same training as the moronic doctors who tried to pull off jihad in Britain, then we really don't have much to fear. Remember, these are the guys who couldn't pull off a suicide car bombing right. And they're doctors. Doctors, I am told by TV, are supposed to be really smart.
E-mail addresses for American individuals were found on the same password-protected e-mail chains used by the United Kingdom plotters to communicate with Qaeda handlers in Europe, a counterterrorism official told The New York Sun yesterday. The American and German intelligence community now believe the secure e-mail chains used in the United Kingdom plot have provided a window into an operational Qaeda network in several countries.
"Because of the London and Glasgow plot, we now know communications have been made from Al Qaeda to operatives in the United States," the counterterrorism official said on condition of anonymity. "This plot helps to connect a lot of stuff. We have seen money moving a lot through hawala networks and other illicit finance as well." But this source was careful to say that at this point no specific information, such as names, targets or a timeline, was known about any particular plot on American soil. The e-mail addresses that are linked to Americans were pseudonyms.
Hat tip: He who must not be associated with the Jawa at work any longer so that he won't get fired.
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GOOSE CREEK (WIS) - Authorities demolished a suspicious item found in a car that led police to close a highway outside Charleston Saturday night.
WIS News 10 spoke with officials at the Berkeley County Detention Center who said 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed and 21-year-old Yousef Megahed, the occupants of the car, are still in police custody.
So far they have only been charged with possession of explosive devices, but the FBI is working to see if more crimes have been committed.
The article goes on to say...
Officials say the men did not show up on any terror suspect list, and authorities don't think they posed a threat.
Hmmmm, it seems the al-Qaeda numbnuts who tried to bomb Glasgow Airport were not on any lists either. I'll say it again, it helps if the guys in your secret cell are, you know, secret.
Hat Tip: The Macmillans.
But wait, there's more. One bomb was ready to detonate and another was under construction.
Via ABC NEWS4: Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men had atleast one ready to go bomb and bomb making materials that include chemicals.
Hat Tip Larwyn.
Move along. These are not the middle eastern men with bombs and names similar to Megadeath we're looking for.
Breaking: Car with Explosives in SC, 2 Middle Easterners Detained
CNN and local news are reporting that a car possibly carrying explosives has been stopped by police outside Charleston, South Carolina. Two men were in the van, both described as Middle Eastern.
The car was stopped in the community of Goose Creek, north of Charleston. The bomb squad and the FBI are on the scene. Highway 176, where the car was found, is said to still be closed.
Developing.....
Hat tip: Larwyn.
UPDATE: I know that CNN is retracting the "Middle Eastern" angle, but local media is still running with it. But get this, reliapundit dropped this in the comments:
Goose Creek is home to the Naval Weapons Station and the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held."
That's interesting. It may be nothing more than cops with a heightened sense of security.
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Police arrested more than a dozen people and seized a "small armory of weapons" during a raids this morning at the Your Black Muslim Bakery and other locations in Oakland, local media report.
I found the link over at LGF, but buried near the end is this important piece of information:
More recently, [founder of the bakery Yusuf] Bey's son and some other young men were identified as the young toughs who bashed liquor bottles in Oakland corner stores and berated the owners for selling alcohol in the community.
Also, longtime Oakland journalist Chauncey Bailey was reportedly researching an investigative piece into Your Black Muslim Bakery before he was shot and killed Thursday morning.
Sounds to me as if Bey and his friends were trying to enforce Sharia law. The kind of thing that is common in Muslim ghettos all over Europe.
What was it that Chauncey Bailey was researching? Yet another gang in Oakland or a gang of thugs enforcing sharia?
It should be noted that by "black Muslim" that we are probably talking about members of the Nation of Islam--Louis Farrakhan's group.
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An increased threat of another al Qaeda attack between now and Sep. 11 of this year has caused Capitol Police officials to step up security on Capitol Hill, Roll Call reported....
“Given the world situation and recently released snippet from al-Qaida threatening to attack Washington, we’re just being a tad more vigilant if that’s possible,†Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Terrance Gainer told the Capitol Hill newspaper. “Although, if you’re ready for a four-alarm fire at any time, it’s hard to be more vigilant.â€
A new al Qaeda propaganda ad, headlined "Wait for the Big Surprise" and featuring a digitally altered photograph of President George Bush and Pakistan's President Pervez Musharraf standing in front of a burning White House, was posted on the Internet today.
The brief clip from al Qaeda's "as Sahab" propaganda arm juxtaposes the doctored photo of Bush and Musharraf along with previously seen images of al Qaeda's top leadership -- Osama bin Laden, Ayman al Zawahri and Adam Gadahn -- as well as a photo of an SUV in a motorcade.
There is no additional information provided in the ad, and it closes with the words, "Soon -- God willing," written across the screen and repeated several times.
And the big surprise is?
Some Islamotard learned how to use Photoshop.
Sorry, I can't take these "ads" seriously anymore. Actions speak louder than words, and Al Qaeda (1.0, 2.0, and 3.0 combined) hasn't been all that successful in the action department lately.
All I see here is a desperate cry for attention, an attempt to distract from the fact that they're getting their asses handed to them in Iraq.
Oh, we'll have an attack at some point, it's inevitable, but not all terrorists are Al Qaeda (either 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0). With that fact in mind, I'll respond to this "ad" with the ol' reliable...
UPDATE by Rusty: AllahP wonders if one of the guys in the animated .gif above might be Adnan al-Shukrijumah who was allegedly charged by al Qaeda with the mission of getting in to the United States and setting off a dirty bomb.
The two look similar, but it's hard to tell. My gut instinct says no.
'Not-a-Terrorist' Muslim Woman Arrested, Had Bomb
Kimberly "Asma" Al-Homsi arrested....again. This time on charges related to the "domestic disturbance" call that brought the police to her and Aisha Abdul-Rahman Hamad's house two weeks ago. They found bomb making materials at the time, but it looks like they've decided to press charges.
Q: How come it's al-Homsi that's always getting arrested and not Hamad? Is Kimberly the butch and therefore assumed to be the responsible man of the house.
During a search on July 16, detectives found dangerous explosives and a homemade bomb.
An arrest affidavit describes it as two plastic pipes capped off on one end, and shotgun shells placed into the opposite end. The affidavit goes on to say the pipes were X-rayed, which showed them to be filled with very small round balls which investigators described as buckshot, used in shotgun shells.
For a really effective pipe bomb, though, you need something more than a shotgun shell, and caps on both sides. I wanted to say it was a zip gun gone awry, but the same article says that she also had one of those.
How do I know this stuff? No one is going to accuse me of not getting anything out of Boy Scouts!
Al-Homsi had previously been detained on what looked like a casing of Dallas Love Field for potential terrorism. But charges were later dropped. She was also once arrested for threatening people with a fake hand grenade.
Anyway, it looks like she's just psycho to me. But, as I've said on a number of occasions: crazy + extremist ideology = dangerous.
And how does one know if a crazy Muslim woman also might have an extremist ideology?
Fire officials say while they are confident of what al-Homsi was making, they have yet to learn of her motives. But they soon may learn, as the FBI has seized her computer and is analyzing it to see if it will provide any answers.
The internet: more than just porn and stock quotes!
Hat tip: Jaret, who oddly seems to follow all things lesbian-Muslim.....
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Terrorist Blogger Sentenced to 10 Years
Daniel Joseph Maldonado, a.k.a Daniel Aljughaifi, has been sentenced to 10 years for receiving training from al Qaeda linked elements in Somalia.
Democrats Who Want You Sued For Reporting Terrorism
These morons voted against lawsuit protection from Islamic grievance rackets like CAIR for reporting such things as noticing jihad videos being developed by jihadis at Circuit City.
They're strong on national security - just not on letting the average person tip them off to suspicious behavior. They'll handle it, thank you. They can't even seem to pinpoint where 7 billion of their pathetic pork projects is going, but they have a lock on knowing what Johnny Jihad is up to at any one moment.
Love Field Terror Suspect Arrested ... Again
Kimberly "Asma" Al-Homsi is in the news again, this time arrested after a "domestic disturbance" call was made and a six hour a standoff with the police. But alls well that ends well: the cops used the taser on her.
You'll recall that she has previously been questioned by the FBI after she and Aisha Abdul-Rahman Hamad were spotted near Southwest Airline's main hub at Dallas Love Field in what appeared to be a "dry run" to some. She had also been arrested previously for making threats with a fake handgrenade. After the two incidents she claimed the authorities were harassing her because she was dressed in traditional Muslim garb.
I'm sure the police are just out to get another Muslim. I mean, isn't that what they do?
Oh, did I mention the police found four explosive devices in her home?
Before the day ended, Arlington police had negotiated a six-hour standoff, their robot had been shot at with a paintball gun, and they had called in a bomb squad over four potentially explosive devices.
Kimberly Al-Homsi called 911 about 12:40 a.m. Monday. She said her friend, Aisha Hamad, had threatened her with a knife....
Police say that Monday morning, when an officer came to the door, Ms. Hamad threatened to shoot him. She told him the only way she would leave was in a body bag.
So began the standoff, during which she fired a paintball gun at a tactical robot and missed, police say, and at the end of which a negotiator persuaded her to come out peacefully. Once outside, Ms. Hamad, 50, fought with them while they tried to handcuff her, police say, so they used a Taser on her....
Meanwhile, police searched the home on Wembley Road and found four explosive devices, one of which was sitting on a bedroom table....
"We do not know whether they would function as [explosive] devices until we have time to study them and look at them and test the materials," Mr. Lea said. "I can tell you this; there wasn't anything in there that would have blown her house to pieces."
That's cryptic. What could be characterized as an explosive but not be all that dangerous?
Anyway, Schlussel thinks they're lesbians--the bad kind. I have no idea where that idea comes from other than you have two butch chicks living together and threatening each other. Maybe the police found explosive vibrators?
If its just a guess of Debbie's, then why not just assume that the two are the polygamous wives of the same husband. Don't laugh, I've seen it before. Okay, feel free to laugh.....
Anyway, parting thought: crazy and terrorist wannabes are not mutually exclusive choices.
Hat Tip: JarvisW
UPDATE: Debbie clarifies to me in an e-mail that she interprets the report that the two are "domestic partners" as lesbians. So, maybe the exploding vibrator hypothesis I had isn't so far off the mark?
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That's because "Yousef al-Khattab", aka Takfiri, is one Joseph Cohen, who I first ran into via the cyber jihadis over at The Ignored Puzzle, the Wordpress hosted English language al Qaeda support website, where his blogspot hosted website is on inshallahshaheed's blogroll.
Despite the guilty plea, some friends maintain Maldonado is a victim of religious persecution.
Yousef al-Khattab, a New York City bicycle-taxi driver, said in a telephone interview he believes the government trumped up the charges against Maldonado.
Al-Khattab said he never met Maldonado but has known him for four or five years through the Internet and considers him a friend.
And since I discovered Yousef al-Khattab through mutual "friends" of Omar Bakri Mohammed, my immediate suspicions were that he was a follower of the movement now calling itself Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah in Britain, and which maintains a website called "Islam Base".
And I'll remind you once again that in "base" in Arabic is qaeda, and the website once featured books by Ayman al Zawahiri and Osama bin Laden, before we exposed them.
Which makes a lot of sense, since al-Khattab has several books online which he downloaded from Bakri Mohammed's followers at Islam Base, including a book written by convicted terrorist financier Abu Hamza, Allah's Government on the Earth, on his website. He also has a direct link to Islam Base on his website which takes you to a lecture by Sheikh Anwar Al Awlaki on The Constants of Jihad. And Islam Base reciprocates by linking Khattab's Judaism to Islam video.
Now, Khattab claims to be in Morocco, but his website has a New York contact phone number and the article above interviewed him last month also describes him as working in the city. And since we know he is connected to the followers of Omar Bakri Mohammed, then the logical inference is that he is a member of his New York City affiliate, The Islamic Thinkers Society (their website, here).
Which brings us back to the original point: something familiar about that face.....Oh, yeah...
Allahu akbar, here's the video. Then again, the bearded look is popular among that group....
But the other evidence seems pretty solid. His connection to Omar Bakri Mohammed's followers, plus being in New York almost certainly means he is affiliated with The Islamic Thinkers Society.
How bad is this guy? Remember, he's a Jew, and he wrote this at an Islamist message board:
Dear brothers and sisters, it is as clear as day and night that the Jews are the enemy of mankind and even the environment. I have read this thread, and the Jew has been provided with more than ample proofs and evidences, but why waste time? It is crystal clear that the Jews (may Allah swt destroy them) run the media,banking,USA foreign policy,and the porn industry etc. etc.
Brothers and sisters rather than being kept 'busy' refuting this bacteria we should focus on ridding Judaism from this earth. To quote a brother that the USA government issued a postage stamp in his memory, "by any means necessary".
The Jew on this forum mentioned the Nazis in one of 'it's' posts, I felt it only fair to post Joseph Gobbele's essay that has ALOT of truth in it though not all truth. The essay is called The Jew and it was written in 1929 interesting how true it is to this day and time! ...
[He then quotes extensively from the Nazi's chief propagandist, Joseph Goebbels] ...
Brothers and sisters, I am not a Neo Nazi in fact I am a former Jew,but I urge you to rush forth in Allah's service in any and all ways legal to eliminate the teachings of Judaism aka The Jewish People.
Bad enough that he'd call for genocide against his own people.
Parting thought from Yousef al-Khattab, in a message he wrote at an Islamic message board:
My concern is a Sharia State inshaallah BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
Al Qaeda Cell in U.S.
I got news for you folks: there are already al Qaeda cells here. Call it a gut feeling. So, to claim that an al Qaeda cell is on its way, really misses the boat. The good news is that it looks like al Qaeda's operatives are mostly incompetent.
Senior U.S. intelligence officials tell ABC News new intelligence suggests a small al Qaeda cell is on its way to the United States, or may already be here.
Let's just hope that the numbnuts, idiots, and crazies that make up most of al Qaeda 3.0 don't find a four leaf clover soon.
And, speaking of the immigration link, it would be good to remember that al Qaeda operative Adnan G. El Shukrijumah (pictured above) is said to speak fluent Spanish and passes as a Hispanic. He's the guy that was supposedly sent by al Qaeda to the U.S. to set off a dirty bomb. Oh, and there have been reports that he's been seen south-of-the-border....and even the occasional sighting in the U.S.
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Anti-war Nutjob Shoots Soldier, Kills Self
The logical endgame of BDS and anti-war hate leads to this - trying to murder troops and then destroying yourself when it dawns on you what a spectacularly violent psychopath you are.
Media response? Zzzzzzz...
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Sandcrawler PSA: al-Qeada Planning Attack, el-Spectacularrrr
Yes that's right al-Qeada plans to make America's summer suck. That's according to ABCNEWS:
A secret U.S. law enforcement report, prepared for the Department of Homeland Security, warns that al Qaeda is planning a terror "spectacular" this summer, according to a senior official with access to the document.
"This is reminiscent of the warnings and intelligence we were getting in the summer of 2001," the official told ABCNews.com.
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Myself, I'm looking forward to watching more failed Mujahadbeens burn inside their failed car bombs. It's like a barbecue and fireworks all at once!
But keep your eyes peeled. No telling when one of these idiots will accidentally get it right and hurt someone.
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The "mircale" of 9/11 isn't that it actually Happened; it's that it didn't happen before, and that it hasn't happened AGAIN, since!
Stand by...
Posted by: Dale in Atlanta at July 02, 2007 03:02 PM (BPJn5)
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You have nothing to worry about, just douse their burning bodies and lock them up for 30 years.
You heard about the baggage handler in Glasgow that gave the burning dude a good kicking, theres a site to donate a measly £3 each to buy him 1000 pints of beer. I just donated, we all have to agree he deserves a cold one after his heroics.
Check out the site here: http://johnsmeaton.com
Posted by: dave clarke at July 02, 2007 03:15 PM (C86gs)
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Can't imagine how al-Qeada is going to make 110 degrees in the shade suck any more than it normally does.
Posted by: John Galt at July 02, 2007 05:04 PM (A5mvC)
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So, the Doc leans over and says to him, "This is the ever-after. Ain't it great?!"
Posted by: Al at July 02, 2007 10:04 PM (QjMeG)
6"... more failed Mujahadbeens burn inside their failed car bombs. It's like a barbecue and fireworks all at once!...."
I guess you like the smell of bacon bits, eh Howie ?!?!?!
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at July 03, 2007 02:16 PM (j97MF)
The CAIR - al Qaeda Connection?
Most around here know of the ties between CAIR and Hamas. You'll recall that CAIR has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the case against the leaders of the Hamas money laundering scheme at the Holy Land Foundation.
But what about a CAIR connection to al Qaeda? At the very least, this article from Front Page suggests that the early leaders of CAIR travelled in the same circles as al Qaeda supporters. I don't know if that makes them guilty of anything more than bad taste in friends. Maybe it's a case of the bad hanging out with the worse--and related to them through marriage. I just don't know.
In any event, the connections outlined in the article are disturbing. You'll just have to read the whole thing.
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That is one hell of an article. I'm gonna go throw bacon at the local CAIR office. Don't worry, it'll be the cheap stuff. I'm gonna eat the peppered bacon for breakfast tommorow.
Posted by: Rome at June 22, 2007 09:13 PM (/GrlO)
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Will someone please ban Greyrooster or at least post his IP and/or email addresses so that we can notify his provider and try to shut him down.
It is totally ridiculous that this idiot is allowed to post racist statements here and get away with it. He not only hurts the conservative cause, he hurts America.
Greyrooster says terrible things about black Americans. There are brave Americans with black skin who are fighting in harm's way right now and it is a tragedy that this blog allows a racist fool to get away with atrocious statements. He may be entitled to free speech, but it is not your obligation to give him a platform and facilitate his hate. Please do the right thing and expose him.
Please Dr. Shackleford or Jane, talk your co-bloggers into dealing with this idiot.
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 22, 2007 10:02 PM (b0FZu)
Posted by: JihadGene at June 22, 2007 10:38 PM (l8Hl5)
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Conservative voice my ass. Stupid lefturd. Yea there are brave blacks fighting in our military. There is also ones that murder whites and others for no reason at all. There are ones that are joining the black muslims more and more. There are nappy headed hos' who falsely accuse students at Duke and are not punished. If you feel it's improper to call a bunch of blacks that beat to death people on our streets niggers then you are a stupid nigger. The blacks know who I'm talking about. So fuck you, stupid bitch. Idiot. Your stupid mama is the idiot for having a freak like you. How's that. Now get the hell out of here. Faggot.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 10:59 PM (k0DWG)
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 11:03 PM (k0DWG)
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What's more, the bastard married a younger woman!!!!
Hey, Just kiddin .
I am checking in after a long while and just as I guessed, I'm not mainstream America.
Congrats to GR and Michael on happy marriages. Keep your sons away from my girls.
Later.
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Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 22, 2007 10:02 PM
AMEN BROTHER!!!
greyrooster, there is an episode of South Park where they convince the Klan to join their enemy to make the enemy look bad by association. You're a fraud.
You know about purebred dogs... all the inbreeding and the resulting retardation and birth defects? Mutts have a broad gene pool that nearly eliminates inbreeding. Americans are all mutts. Celebrate the diversity and all the great stories of all or our ancestors and peoples, or choose your inbred purebreds.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 11:49 PM (k0DWG)
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Perhaps the powerful Blogfathers that run this show would be motivated to censor him (THIS IS NOT A BAD THING) if everytime he posts we divert the entire thread of the comments off to discussing his offensive posts?
Posted by: QC at June 23, 2007 12:05 AM (OeaeS)
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....and if that happens, the terrorists have already won.
Brad, thank you. When my wife and I finally have a son, he will be a gentleman, and most likely to young to atract your girls
In any case, I do believe that a person should be mature enough to handle marriage before going into it, and as someoen else said, there are people around who are thirty, and not mature enough.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 23, 2007 12:32 AM (2OHpj)
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On greyrooster ... yes, he is inflamatory. nearly everytime he posts, someone jumps down his throat, and he usually deserves it to at least some degree. I understand his position, which is essentially 'counter-racism' where he feels he is responding to anti-white bias, and anti-white favoritism. I do think he hurts his own cause through his choice of expression. I personally feel it is wrong to ban someone. I also feel we would all benefit if greyrooster would complain about the racism without being racist in the process. I still come down on the side of not banning anyone. I'd rather we argued, then that we shut down communication like the left does. I'll finish by asking greyrooster to help us all out by showing more tact, and by asking others to honor open discussion, even if we disagree. I leave it to you. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 23, 2007 12:41 AM (2OHpj)
Hey Michael, Enjoy your posts, we have much in common.
Don't take me too seriously.
Brad
QC: I pretty much take him at face value.
Posted by: Brad at June 23, 2007 12:49 AM (uhwlA)
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Ahhhh fuck yea. Still the longest commenter on this blog. If God didn't want you sheared he wouldn't have made you sheep. Dogs yapping at what they can't understand. Cowards running to mama. Mama, mama he said a bad thing. He got my stupid attention. While the greyrooster pours another drink and laughs his ass off. Just leading the sheep, just leading the sheep. Shall I lead them to greener pastures or over a cliff?
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 03:07 AM (K55Wn)
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 03:08 AM (K55Wn)
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QC: You can cross breed all you want. Me. I'm staying white. Black may be beautiful and brown is just grand. But white is the color of the big boss man. Friggin mongrel wannabe. No true roots. Sounds like commie propaganda lets keep fucking each other until we are all the same color. With the same BRAIN POWER. Perhaps yours would go up. Don't think mine would. You are a candidate for the humain societies put down program. Mother nature, God, or whoever made man like they are. It's not nice to fuck with mother nature. God either I would suppose. If he wanted man to be a mixed up mess he would have made them that way. And for your info. All my dogs are purebred. Why feed trash.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 03:33 AM (K55Wn)
You just keep right on giving em hell buddy. To quote my grandfather Col. Henry Walker USAF 1898 - 1959.
"I may well despise what you have to say but I will fight to the death protecting your right to say even that which I despise".
There is no scoundrel greater than that which would silence the words of another man simply because those words are offensive. There is nothing that can be said for which it is impossible that offense be not taken. The road traveled to subduction of offense leads ever deeper into tyranny with each and every attempt to restrict that speech which be deemed offensive. For each step does enforce upon the next like a jackboot upon the throat a greater and greater evil called censorship and censorship is nothing less than the bastard father of tyranny.
God save me and the United States from those who seek to do the general public a greater good by protecting us from every dastardly offense under the sun. Your kind ministrations, your good intentions, your well intended protections are nothing less than the most vile of plagues upon this great nation.
I need not your nanny state, I despise your big brother protection, I hold only loathing and contempt for your arrogant elitist belief that the freedoms enunciated in the US Constitution could ever be served or protected by an act that equals violating the very first amendment to that Constitution.
Those calling for greyrooster to be banned or censored don't deserve the right to speak since it is precisely the right to speak that you make your case to destroy. You cannot silence that voice which offends without surrendering your own right to speak.
Nowhere in the US Constitution is there enunciated the right not to be offended. The founding fathers of this great nation knew beyond any shadow of doubt that the first amendment would guarantee a long line of debate controversy and offense. Yet in their great foresight and wisdom knowing full well the result of their decision they chose to make the very first amendment to the Constitution one that they knew would be the foundation of great offense for many generations to come.
So greyrooster makes comments that many find offensive, it is better to be offended by such comments than to be subject to tyranny even the tyranny of the minority or the majority. What good is freedom of speech if you cannot exercise that freedom. I say that any freedom you cannot exercise is a freedom that you do not have.
To those who wish to silence greyrooster I say, be ashamed, be very ashamed, be as ashamed of yourselves as those great men who founded this great republic would be of you. I leave you with these words, quoted from that great patriot Samuel Adams...
" If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude
greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in
peace. We seek not your council, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick
the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our
countrymen."
Greyrooster is not entitled to free speech on someone else's property. And Rusty is not obligated to give Greyrooster a platform. Rusty can ban Greyrooster as a free individual himself, unless of course Rusty supports Greyrooster's thoughts.
Are you such a goddamn communist that you think that if a person allows a politician to advertise on this property, the owner of that property is a censor unless anyone who tries to advertise there is allowed to do so?
Posted by: Conservative Voice at June 23, 2007 02:46 PM (b0FZu)
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Rooster, my my what are you drinking today you old fool. Sigh..... Ok vote to delete, register your opinion blow.
See now you drag us in and it just makes him feel more validated ignore him ya damn suckers. I'd delete him now but in the grand pyramid of things I give a shit about and have time for, he's not one.
I'm more uspet to read the idiot skin head white supremacists like Michael Crook. They won't let the bigot Rooster on their board because he loves america and wants to win the war. And trust me their board is a lot worse and rooster normally only uses that language whne he's drunk or mad. The use uit every other word daily.
You hear that Rooster? the last person I heard to use that language was Michael "I hate the Troops Crook" earlier in the week. See what I mean, you want to be like him?
And those people better hang for what they did hate crime black white or no. Thats why color crimes are a problem. What happens when the oppress minorty kills the majority. They should hang murderers period black or white. I'd write about it but them it looks like I'm supporting Crook and Rooster.
No Rooster is not Dr. Rusty Shackleford. Different IP's always, my god the paranoids around here.
Posted by: Darth Odie at June 23, 2007 02:52 PM (YHZAl)
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CAIR is funded by some of the same Saudis who (in part) look after the Taliban and al-Qaida in Iraq. CAIR costs them about US$3 million per year. Since Hamas is now in conflict with al-Qaida, CAIR will not be rooting for Hamas very much, except when Hamas provokes Israel, whereupon CAIR will blame Israel. Hamas today is an Iranian proxy army.
Posted by: Vancouver at June 23, 2007 06:15 PM (1GIDl)
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My motives, my motives. Are just that. My motives. No need for me to explain what and why I do. All I know is that it's working. If I can get one of a hundred to face the obvious truth I am a success. Americans have been brainwashed. And I am not required to change my beliefs (wish are based on what I see) merely because some bitch named Conservative Voice is screwing a black. Everyone has a brain and an asshole. Things go in and out of these orifices. Lefturd faggots like the bitch Conservative Voice doesn't know which one to use for taking things in.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 07:14 PM (1p01H)
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Our new cry shall be OUTLAW ISLAM AND BAN CONSERVATIVE VOICE.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 23, 2007 07:15 PM (1p01H)
While I do not know who or what you really are I do know for certain that which you without a doubt are not, and that is a conservative.
The fact that The Jawa Report is under no obligation to provide anyone, greyrooster, myself or even you, with a platform to speak from does not denigrate the association of censorship created by those who have expressed the desire to see the creators of offensive speech silenced.
You who advocate for that most repugnant tyranny of expression beloved not by any of the children of freedom, liberty or democracy cast and flail about like a frightened child wailing in the dark. No drowning man has ever even in the depths of despair or through the straights of fear fought so vain a battle to conceal their lack of knowledge or their true ideologies.
The vitriol of your diatribe evidences only a profound lack of understanding of liberty freedom or democracy. Indeed Dr. Shackelford could by action of his own freewill deprive greyrooster of the privilege of exercising his right to free speech in this a private forum.
And in the doing so Dr. Shackelford would be setting fire as it were to the fabric of his very own soul, casting himself adrift from the moorings of ethical behavior and the standards of social conduct that separate conservative practitioners of liberty and representative democracy from those who embrace the cold as death hands of merciless tyranny called socialism.
Make no mistake regarding this, that though you clearly fail to grasp the significance of the abomination you so rabidly clamor for you cannot equivocate the poison which infects your mind with the motivations of Dr. Shackelford.
Though Dr. Shackelford does not censor what is posted on his site the very nature of his site elucidates incontrovertibly that the positions enunciated in each post represent the views of their authors and not the site which hosts the discussion in which they take place.
Any attempt to suggest that his failure to adopt those tactics espoused by individuals such as yourself, tactics which are the heraldry of intellectual cowardice and the Magnum opus of that most vile and odious tyranny that is socialism which masquerades as liberalism pretending to be democracy, is nothing less than the rabid snarling of intellectually disingenuous fools spewing forth the putrid gangrenous vitriol that they have been indoctrinated into believing represents the true spirit of representative democracy.
The Jawa Report is not Dr. Shackelford's living room, nor for that matter is it even his front lawn. Your pathetic allegory comparing it to a place where signs or posters might be placed in support of political candidates emanates from you like the odor of death illustrating the depths of your depravity and the degree that the disease which infects your mind that is socialism has advanced.
Unlike Dr. Shackelford's front lawn, where Dr. Shackelford could in all clear conscience place the strictest of limitations upon such discourse as might take place The Jawa Report is in fact a venue set up and maintained by Dr. Shackelford specifically for the purpose of provoking discussion on the important and sometimes not so important events occurring daily.
To engage in the censoring of individuals for the posting of positions unpopular or offensive would be a decent into the foul and festering hell of liberal socialist hypocrisy. While he obviously has the legal right to censor anyone he chooses to, simply having a right is not an obligation to exercise that right.
He also has the right to fill his jacuzzi with the sludge from his septic tank and revel in that vile filth, but I seriously doubt that he is going to do so any time soon and especially not because you first tried to tell him what a wonderful idea doing so would be, and then tried to intimidate him into submitting to your censorship.
Posted by: doriangrey at June 24, 2007 08:00 PM (XvkRd)
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Wow! I'm getting through. Ahhh. I'll have another to that.
Lefturds always attempt to win an agrument with the same "I'm going to cry to mommy". It's a liberal lefturd thing. They have been trying it for years. Sometimes successful sometimes not. Depends on the inter strenght of the powers that be. Conservative Voice is exactlly the same as a hippy loudmouth at a conservative convention. And the punk's goals are the same. These big ole hands of mine will fit around his stinking little neck just fine. Just fine.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 26, 2007 08:11 AM (KtHtq)
[CAIR] often seems to be more aligned with our enemies than us -- which isn't surprising as it spun off from a group funded by Hamas. As you know, Hamas has been waging a terrorist war against Israel and calls for its total destruction. It also promises to see America destroyed. Nowadays, Hamas is busy murdering its Palestinian political rivals.
Even with this history, and CAIR's conspicuous failure to condemn Hamas by name, it has been treated as if represents Muslim Americans by our own government. The good news is that the financial support CAIR claims to have among American Muslims is a myth. We know this because The Washington Times got hold of the group's IRS tax records.
CAIR's dues-paying membership has shrunk 90 percent since 9/11 -- from 29,000 in 2000 to only 1,700 last year. CAIR's annual income from dues plunged from $733,000 to $59,000. Clearly, America's Muslims are not supporting this group -- and I'm happy to hear about it.
Of course, every silver lining seems to have a cloud; and this cloud is that CAIR's spending is running about $3 million a year. They’ve opened 25 new chapters in major cities across the country even as their dues shrank to a pittance. The question is; who’s funding CAIR?
Teens Attack Innocent Motorists for "Juneteenth"
Swarms of vicious thuggish teens celebrating Juneteenth (a celebration of Emancipation), decided to jump on the cars of passers-by and terrorize them, even kicking their windows in some cases.
When the cops come in, watch these little insects scatter like the worthless cockroaches that they are. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton could not be reached for comment.
From the Wiki entry, which mentions this incident:
In recent years the holiday has attracted controversy due to outbreaks of violence. During Juneteenth festivities in 2007 crowds attacked cars in downtown Milwaukee. One driver was pulled from his vehicle and severely beaten before police arrived. A woman was also arrested during the festivities for assaulting a police officer. Also in 2007, in Austin, Texas, a crowd beat a man to death after he attempted to defend the driver of a car which had just hit a child.
REVEREND AL- Hmmmmm....Let's see, I gots 24 "D" cell batt-ries in my Supa-Sized muh-fu*kin bullhorn. Volume up....switch on!...TEST! TEST! KOREAN MERCHANTS GO HOME!!! Hey y'all, is this Muh-Fuggin bullhorn workin?
CROWD- Hell YEAH!
REVEREND AL- Cool!... NOW LOOKS EVERYBODY...I KNOW YOUR PISSED OVER IMMIGRATION.
CROWD- WTF?
REVEREND AL- NOW LOOKS EVERYBODY...I KNOW YOUR PISSED CAUSE OF HURRICANE KATRINA!
CROWD- WTF?
REVEREND AL-NOW LOOKS EVERYBODY...I KNOW YOUR PISSED CAUSE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ!
CROWD- WTF?
REVERAND AL- NOW LOOKS EVERYBODY...I KNOW YOUR PISSED BECAUSE BARACK OBAMA, THE MAGIC NEGRO, WOULD MAYBE GET MORE VOTES FOR DA OFFICE OF PRESIDENT, THAN ME!
CROWD-BOOOOOO!!! There's his Esclade! Break the windows!!! AWWW, HELL YEAH!!!
REVERAND AL- YOU BUNCH 'O MUH-FU*KIN CONSERVATIVES.....GET THE HELL AWAY FROM MY CADDIE!!!
To be continued? Awww...Hell Naww!!!
Posted by: JihadGene at June 21, 2007 02:05 AM (l8Hl5)
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I have lived in the States for 25 years and I'm not an American. I've been away for the last 10 years-moved back to Europe. One thing I do not miss is the niggha.....and the niggha attitude
Oh do not get me wrong I am NO BIGGOT, Oh no sir, we have black people here in Europe and in my particular country black people come from Africa, they work, they struggle, they earn whatever they own with back breaking work, they respect, they have values (actually male parents stay with their kids and wives), they are a JOY to be around and I like them more than some of my country men.
But blacks in America are just hopeless.
Posted by: nickkick at June 21, 2007 07:46 AM (3ZyL+)
Sure, I know I should not have generalized it. I impulsively reacted to the video. My wife, kids, parents could have been caught up in this nonsense...... I apologize to any African Americans I might have offended.
Posted by: nickkick at June 21, 2007 08:17 AM (3ZyL+)
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Well, you're right. I was just tightening the bolts of your otherwise prescient comment.
Posted by: Good Lt at June 21, 2007 08:41 AM (yMbfY)
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America worries about Mexicans when they should be worried about the black evil within.
No to many Mexican muslims.
I apologize to any blacks I haven't offended.
Randman: I wish I would have been in one of those cars. Better yea my idiot crusher.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 21, 2007 08:55 AM (aPOZJ)
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We need to bring the troops home and put them to work wiping out the ghettos of America.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 21, 2007 08:56 AM (aPOZJ)
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Good Lt., My understanding of American history is limited; but I'm pretty sure this is NOT what President Lincoln and General Grant fought for.
Is it possible that excessive liberalism has robbed a portion of the black American population of their sense of moral responsibility, and that this is what this video clip shows?
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at June 21, 2007 10:03 AM (j97MF)
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These are the idiots that ruin it for the rest of the black men and women who want to be somebody.
Posted by: Howie at June 21, 2007 10:26 AM (YHZAl)
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you can bet that ole Al, and Jessie would have bee all up in arms if the drivers of those cars had done what i would have done... i would have run over as many of those bastards as i could have... no one attacks my car without me fighting back... and dont let someone throw a rock, that means they are using deadly weapons... that gives me permission to get out my concealed weapon
Posted by: mekender at June 21, 2007 12:32 PM (rBjHa)
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Ahh, the friendly streets of Milwaukee and Detroit (and L.A. and N.O. and St Louis, and....). A big reason why I moved east... nickkick, I've had the same positive experience with most African immigrants in NY which was quite a shock after growing up surrounded by this kind of stupidity.
Posted by: tbone at June 21, 2007 04:24 PM (HGqHt)
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For the record, I'm 1/12th Naive American and my grandpa was 1/8th Lesbian so like that makes me 1/16th Lesbian.
Posted by: tbone at June 21, 2007 04:30 PM (HGqHt)
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Tbone- For the record...are you Paris Hilton or Bill Clinton?
Posted by: JihadGene at June 21, 2007 08:04 PM (l8Hl5)
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They are not young thugs or blacks. They are filthy niggers. Nothing more. Most niggers will join the muslims sooner or later. Their lives are based on hatred. Same as muslims. Birds of a feather. Just an anchor around the neck of real Americans.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 21, 2007 09:17 PM (O5Ss2)
Posted by: Good Lt at June 21, 2007 09:52 PM (yMbfY)
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You tell it your way. I'll tell it mine. I get my point across better. This situation should have been handled be machine gunning the rioting trash. If these monkeys are unhappy in America they can assist America by moving back to Africa. This black trash joining the muslims shows were these 1/2 humans animals are. I detest muslims. But I would rather have a muslim next door anyday.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 09:42 AM (yhGrC)
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Hahaha, JihadGene. Hilton could never hope to be the whore that either of the Clintons are. I'm more of a Billy Joel - I like to get drunk, bang old hot models and crash my car into trees...
Posted by: tbone at June 22, 2007 11:06 AM (HGqHt)
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I crashed my car into a tree, and I blame the two beautiful girls sitting up front with me. That WAS the end of THAT! Girl no likey man who crash car! I can tell you that the stars were NEVER alligned like THAT again! Worked out better for me in the long run, because I met my true love much later. USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at June 22, 2007 06:02 PM (2OHpj)
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God Lt: Right on. I'm getting sick and tired of all these racial slurs against muslim terrorists. Just not neccessary.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 22, 2007 10:45 PM (k0DWG)
al-Qaeda's NY Wish List
The NY stock exchange, kids puppet shows, chemical gas and dirty bomb attacks were all considered. Fortunatly the Brits have Dhiren Barot and his seven partners in crime in the cross bar hotel. Not so good, al-Qaeda most likely still has all this research.
Via MSNBC: NEW YORK - London's Scotland Yard on Friday released a series of videos, maps and attack plans for a plot to assault New York's financial district, prepared by al-Qaida operatives six months before the Sept. 11 attack.
While some parts of the videos and some of the attack information — prepared for Osama bin Laden himself — were previously made public, today's release is the most detailed regarding the attack plans.
The materials were released today after seven members of a terror cell run by al-Qaida "general'' Dhiren Barot were sentenced in London to a total of 136 years in prison. Mohammed Naveed Bhatti, Junade Feroze, Zia Ul Haq, Abdul Aziz Jalil, Omar Abdur Rehman, Qaisar Shaffi and Nadeem Tarmohamed were vital to his deadly plans to attack targets in the United Kingdom and United States, Woolwich Crown Court was told.
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What ever became of PUNCH and JUDY did they ban them becuase of the 70s pacifists wussietards?
Posted by: sandpiper at June 16, 2007 10:17 AM (mY5+n)
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Wow, that's too bad. Of course, considering that the vast hordes of
liberal scum in that blighted cesspool overwhelmingly support the
enemies of Liberty, I have a hard time worrying about it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 16, 2007 10:20 AM (e56vj)
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British convicts must be pussy. They wouldn't last long in a Mississippi Prison.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 16, 2007 11:25 AM (fNvh1)
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As a British Expatriate I'm sure none of these people will serve their full sentence. When you hear that British Jails spent a million pounds to make sure toilets are not facing Mecca, and hired a personal assistant to wipe and feed a Jihadi with hooks for hands in prison -- you know these guys will be free on appeal sometime in the future.
Even Prison isn't what it used to be in the U.S! unless you count Sheriff Arpaio's Prison in Arizona and look how he is vilified world over. Every discussion I have had with lefties in regards to Prisons comes down to their belief that "Prison isn't the answer" and I think most would want Prisons closed (as long as Prisoners didn't come near their gated community!) and the removal of the Death Penalty.
Sometimes I feel like I'm watching America infiltrated with European values in slow motion.
Posted by: davec at June 16, 2007 12:31 PM (kcDpP)
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Is it wrong to pray that this slime Barot meets a guy in prison who has a 14 inch schlong?
Posted by: Roberto C. at June 16, 2007 02:11 PM (iD1fP)
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Roberto, Yes yes it is wrong, but understandable.
Posted by: Howie at June 16, 2007 04:15 PM (YHZAl)
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Stupidity is that we are making the same mistakes the Europe made. Muslims should not be in the west. Let them stay in their own countries and kill each other. All muslims have been brain washed by their filty religion.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 16, 2007 10:55 PM (AsTKg)
Terror Threat Against Ohio Nuke Power Plant?
The Davis-Besse Nuclear power plant is near Oak Harbor, Ohio, on the shores of Lake Erie. Sandusky Register:
An alleged threat against the Davis-Besse Nuclear Power Station surfaced Sunday night, Ottawa County Sheriff Bob Bratton said.
The potential threat was viewed as serious enough for the to call in the FBI Monday night.
Someone called the Port Clinton Police Department reporting two Arabic men wrote a note on a napkin while at McCarthy's Restaurant and Pub in downtown Port Clinton, Bratton said.
Port Clinton police Detective Bob Case said a note was written on a napkin with the word 'boom' and a depiction of a power plant, not necessarily Davis-Besse.
When will CAIR chime in on this one and complain about 'racial profiling'? Here's a hint about context: when Matt Groening draws a nuclear power plant going 'boom', it's funny.
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If the plant wasn't attacked it was just fear mongering. (/lib)
Posted by: Randman at June 13, 2007 03:31 PM (Sal3J)
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a few years ago i was on a plane schdld to go from cincy to nyc.
about 7 muslim men baorded together, sat separately and then acted weird before take of. they were eye-signaling each other and going to the bathroom with bags and returning without them.
the plane taxied to the runway, and then stopped. we taxied 1/2way back and the pilot announced he needed a new bulb.
me and a few other passengers deplaned - blaming the delay.
i think that these muslims were on a reconn/dry run mission.
the next day i flew out. no gang of muslim men on board. a sunny day. and we flew right over 3mile island.
ever since then i have believed that all the dry-run/reconn stories which emanate out of the midwest ( a few on northwest airlines) have to do with the enemy's desire to hijack jets and crash them into nuclear power plants.
this ohio threat worries me.
Posted by: reliapundit at June 13, 2007 10:08 PM (dDHpK)
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Of course this is happening. That's why I'm for rounding them up and send them packing back to their own countries. You just cannot trust muslims. Even if one in a hundred wishes to kill hundreds of Americans it is not worth it. We have no obligation to educate those that hate us. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 12, 2007 03:06 PM (1ZyKh)
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#2 You are absolutely right. I can just see a terrorist lover Prof tell them, okay we will keep our eyes and ears open and notify you and then walk away and burst out laughing.
Posted by: allahakchew at June 13, 2007 12:34 PM (m2p07)
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Gadahn is a former Jew. His father converted the family and changed his name to Gadahn from Pearlman.Usama is using a former Jew to be his faceman to the US. Like that is going to be the deal breaker.
Posted by: SeeMonk at June 13, 2007 08:46 PM (yKwZ2)
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In other news, the FBI has recently learned that the 9/11 attackers
were probably not from here, and have decided to find a White Christian
family to murder in response, a la
Ruby Ridge. Screw the Gestapo; they're a bunch of incompetent idiots
who only serve their masters' will in order to keep We the People from
getting too uppity.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 16, 2007 11:04 AM (e56vj)
JFK Terror Plot Suspect Implicates Trinidadian Radicals
Court documents show that one of the accused JFK plotters caught in Trinidad has implicated a Trinidadian black Sunni Muslim organization in the plot:
PORT-OF-SPAIN, Trinidad (AP) - A Trinidadian suspect in an alleged plot to ignite a fuel pipeline feeding New York's John F. Kennedy International Airport once belonged to a radical Islamist group here, a spokesman for the group said.
Kala Aki Bua said Wednesday that 56-year-old Kareem Ibrahim cut his ties to Jamaat al Muslimeen in the late 1970s. He repeated the group's denial of any connection to the suspects who allegedly traveled to Trinidad and Tobago to seek the group's blessing and support
One of the other men arrested, Abdel Nur, reportedly cited a much more recent meeting:
But according to the documents, Nur said he met in May with the group's leader, Yasin Abu Bakr, at his compound and the Islamic leader suggested that he return later with others involved "to discuss the plan in detail."
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They're leftards, and Leftards don't believe in an "other side." In their minds we're all one big happy family, citizens of the world with no national loyalties (how primitive), trying to survive against the Man.
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"They're not dissenting. They're on the other side."
No shit? You're just now figuring this out? A good lefturd is a
dead one. Prepare to rise up and take out country back, because the
time is close at hand. Buy ammo now. Lots of it.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at June 02, 2007 01:24 PM (e56vj)
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Time to revoke the tax exempt status of the Atheists.Communist and Lawyers,Underground its a group of subversives as evil as the Communist Party USA
Posted by: sandpiper at June 03, 2007 12:29 AM (XnXsx)
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Wrong about the atheists. But the rest of you are turning us into a religion. The very thing we fear. The most destructive force in history. Religion. And now that another one is seeking world dominiation by any means neccessary. Religious nutcases are worried about the non-religious. Some people are atheists because don't wish to be part of killing in the name of God.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 03, 2007 09:56 AM (vp5rw)
Jihad Training in Southern Virginia?
I imagine a lot of people got this report e-mailed to them from Dr. Paul Williams. I usually don't do this kind of thing--reprinted a report e-mailed to me--but Paul is begging people to reprint it.
The report recounts how he and a few others, including Egyptian journalist Jamal Babour, visited the compound of Jamaat Al Fuqra which is located on Mahareen Roadin in what seems to be one of the more rural areas of Prince George's County.
I'm going to go ahead and distance myself from a couple of the claims--such as the notion that Hezbollah leaders one time got together with al Qaeda leaders for a secret meeting. But, other than a few claims like that--which don't seem to have much to do with the point of the story--the encounter Paul and his colleagues have at the Jamaat Al Fuqra compound are downright scary. It's worth the read, just for that.
What's especially scary is that you have a group of radical Muslims, arming themselves to the teeth, and fortifying the compound in such a way as to suggest they believe that an assault on them is imminent. Is it just me, or does any one else get that Waco vibe here? Just replace David Koresh with Sheikh Gilani, and Jesus with Muhammed and I think you'll see my point.
more...
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this is what you get when you let subhuman arab filth into our country. if we do not kill every arab in our country soon we will face terror attacks on a magnitude never seen before.
arm yourselves because the subhuman arabs are coming...
Posted by: Roy Radow at May 31, 2007 10:48 AM (Nhfns)
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Rusty this guy is as looney as Rosie. He also claims that al Queda smuggled to tactical nukes into the USA back in 2001.
Posted by: John Ryan at May 31, 2007 10:53 AM (TcoRJ)
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Roy, crawl back under the rock you crawled out from.
John, didn't know that. I think the encounter story, though, stands on its own merits. Hell, even Rosie accidentally cracks a funny joke now and then.
hide your head in the sand all you want but mark my words the terror attacks are coming and they will be big. this administration is asleep at the wheel and we will all pay for it.
it takes courage and self sacrifice to realize the only solution to the terrorist problem is the extermination of the arabs worldwide. it is not a pretty solution and it is not something to be taken lightly but it is at this point the *only* valid solution.
the arab is subhuman he is incapable of compassion, assimilation, and cooperation within lawful society. the arab only exists to destroy others and cause harm. they must be removed from society across the globe and slaughtered. to do anything less would be a death sentence to lawful society everywhere.
the war on terror is the last front we must face.
Posted by: Roy Radow at May 31, 2007 11:16 AM (Nhfns)
Posted by: doriangrey at May 31, 2007 12:38 PM (XvkRd)
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Something like this happening among African-Americans doesnt suprise me as Islamics would focus on them as many blacks do feel abused/unwanted by America and as such would gladly join a cult that makes them feel like family.
I would also like to think that the FBI/CIA or any of the other law enforcement angencies are aware of this group and are quietly watching them.
Whose to say as this is something you wouldnt want the NYT{Crimes}'s to know about and spill the beans and put this group and many others on alert that they are definitly being watched.
Posted by: JoiseyMafia at May 31, 2007 01:07 PM (6l2pd)
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These things are troubling enough, to me, that we should take them seriously. Which is why some of the points in the article really bug me. Starting with number one.
How could "trafficking in illegal firearms" be part of "(including) the ammunition for AK-47s"? Ammunition is pretty obviously not a firearm, and the AK47 uses what is either the worlds most common or second most common rifle ammunition; 7.63x39. I myself "traffic" in it to the degree that routinely buying it at local retail establishments and expending it into local range berms counts as "trafficking" (and I worry that it does for articles writers). I wish MORE Americans would so "traffic"...
It's that sort of... I guess error (although "sensationalism" is a word that nags at the back of my thinking here) that damages the credibility of this report. And we -need- credible reports on this kind of preparation so that people can be prepared for whatever happens next. Galt425
Posted by: galt425 at May 31, 2007 01:44 PM (MCGyY)
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OK I read the racist crap in this thread after posting my comments. Y'all are on your own with that effluent, just on the record here I don't ascribe to describing any enemy as "subhuman". It leads to strategic and tactical stupidity (ask a nazi vet). And I personally know many "arabs " (whatever the hell you think that means, in my case it's lebanese and saudis) that I'd be proud to have cover my back during a crisis. The problem is terrorist attack, not somebodies ancestry. Galt(showering now)425
Posted by: galt425 at May 31, 2007 01:50 PM (MCGyY)
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Interestingly you cannot zoom in at google earth to any detail to see the compound or anything else with any granularity.
Posted by: SeeMonk at May 31, 2007 06:16 PM (yKwZ2)
Posted by: SeeMonk at June 01, 2007 06:22 PM (yKwZ2)
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Roy: Your comment "this administation" Do you think Hilarious Hillary would do better? How about the government is not ready. 90% of its employees are democrats.
Posted by: greyrooster at June 02, 2007 12:55 AM (0CFtS)