February 13, 2007
We should also remember that the Islamist message boards have been encouraging potential jihadis to keep it simple. Also, it's important to think about the role of the internet in creating "virtual cells" of mujahideen. That is, jihadis who may never physically meet or formally join an terror organization, but who encourage one another to do acts of violence.
As I've mentioned here many times before, the present structure of the Salafi jihadi movement is such that any one can now claim to be al Qaeda. Although the formal organizations of al Qaeda 1.0 (bin Laden, Zawahiri) and 2.0 (Zarqawi/al Masri in Iraq/ -- GSPC/al Qaeda in Algeria) remain a threat, this "al Qaeda 3.0" is more of a movement than it is of an organization. And thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of young Muslim men in the West sympathize with that movement. Deseret News via LGF:
Police Tuesday identified the gunman accused in Monday night's Trolley Square shooting as Sulejman Talovic, an 18-year-old Bosnian refugee who lived in Salt Lake City.Ogden is a little too far out to be considered a "suburb", but we're all lucky this off-duty cop came to the mall to do some shopping. More:Salt Lake City Police Chief Chris Burbank said Talovic drove his car to the mall, parked in the west parking terrace and encountered two people who he shot before entering the mall.
There, he encountered a female who also was shot right away, then went into a gift shop where there were five people, all of whom the young man shot. Moving through the mall, the gunman tried to shoot others, Burbank said. The chief said he could not say now how many shots were involved in the entire episode.
Burbank praised an unnamed Ogden police officer who took action at the mall to intervene in the incident, and praised the many law enforcement and other agencies that responded quickly and professionally to the crisis.Until Salt Lake police arrived, it was "basically a shoot-out between the Ogden individual and this individual," Burbank said.
"As you can see, this individual was well-prepared," Burbank said, apparently referring to the young man's backpack filled with ammunition "He had one purpose."You'll notice that the more conservative leaning Deseret News is silent as to what might possibly have motivated Sulejman, while the more liberal Salt Lake Tribune goes through a number of possible motivations, none of which include "killing the infidel".
Six individuals died and four others were hospitalized. Currently, four Salt Lake City police officers are on administrative leave, as is the Ogden police officer.
I have relatives who live in Salt Lake, I'm glad none of them were hurt.
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Posted by: Randman at February 13, 2007 06:19 PM (Sal3J)
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 13, 2007 06:23 PM (Dt3sl)
Gee I wonder why........
Posted by: mrclark at February 13, 2007 06:23 PM (VnEjN)
Posted by: n.a. palm at February 13, 2007 06:35 PM (zFrvM)
Posted by: chris at February 13, 2007 06:39 PM (Tbvjs)
Posted by: Garduneh Mehr at February 13, 2007 06:42 PM (vixLB)
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at February 13, 2007 06:55 PM (8e/V4)
Posted by: Mutt Romney at February 13, 2007 07:22 PM (adw/y)
Police spokesmen across the country are perplexed every time islamopithecines attack infidels and claim they did it in the name of allah.
We can all sleep better knowing our crack criminal justice system is on the case.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 13, 2007 07:29 PM (Dt3sl)
One more for the collection. Guys, we have a major credibiity problem with the arguement that "no terror attacks have happened" since Bush took action after 9-11. The truth is that while I remain an ally of GW on knowing that we have to win, I have bee dissapointed since day one, that he didn't more clearly adress the connection between Islam proper, and terrorism against the USA.
This has left us naked to the kind of attacks we see in this article, and in the sniper incedents on the east coast, and the SUV attacks on pedestrians, and so on. The public at large is either told there is no real risk worth guarding against (leftists, and BDS'rs) or that our counter-terror method is keeping us safe (neo-cons, and the Administration) Both stories are wrong, no matter the sincerity of the one telling them.
We apparently aren't loud enough yet, because most people are still buying one oversimplified placebo or the other. They feel good, but the sickness remains because it goes deeper than the masses realize.
I don't know how you get to be a 'fighting keyboardist' but even if your just a keyboard 'minutman' you need to keep shooting. We are getting our tail whipped in the propaganda war. This is really messed up. We should be able to do so much better than we have been. Yes, via Rusty and others, we do have our victories, but we need to win the war, not skirmishes. Online media is vital, but is it enough?
I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions about how we can amplify our voices, and do even more damage that we have?
If this can happen in Salt Lake City it can happen anywhere.
How do you, or I, stop it? Forget Bush, or Congress! It's up to us.
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 13, 2007 07:30 PM (2OHpj)
Posted by: Michael Weaver at February 13, 2007 07:31 PM (2OHpj)
Posted by: Editor at February 13, 2007 07:40 PM (adpJH)
Posted by: Editor at February 13, 2007 07:40 PM (adpJH)
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 13, 2007 08:02 PM (6zYAC)
Then, after you have what you need, get rid of that piece of shit.
Posted by: dick at February 13, 2007 08:16 PM (8Qwo/)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 13, 2007 09:03 PM (E0zAj)
The killer is identified as <b>Solejman Talovic</b>, a Bosnian refugee who lived in Salt Lake City.
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"Sulejman" is a Muslim name, taken from the Muslim conqueror of the
Balkans, <a
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suleiman_the_Magnificent">Suleiman
the Magnificent</a>.
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<blockquote>"He <i>[Sulejman Talovic]</i>is a legal
permanent resident of the United States," said ICE spokeswoman Virginia
Kice. Although his nationality is listed on immigration documents as
Croatian, one of Talovic's relatives said they are
Bosnian.</blockquote>
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<blockquote>Their ability to be offended
knows no bounds, does it?Muslims are saying how offended they are by
Valentine's Day.. and 5 of his victims are in a card store buying
valentines.. open and shut case to me.Celebrating Valentine's Day is
immoral? I guess they don't know that St. Valentine was martyred for
marrying people, huh?</blockquote>
<blockquote><a
href="http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54247">David
Dean,</a> who owns a greeting-card store at the mall, said three
or four people died inside his store, which was packed with Valentine's
Day shoppers.
WorldNetDaily: Utah gunman, 18, was Bosnian Muslim refugee</blockquote>
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Less than four miles from Trolley Park mall to a whole bunch of <a
href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=mosque+OR+Islamic,+salt+lake+city,+ut&ie=UTF8&z=12&om=1">Islamic
Centers/mosques</a>...
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Muslims are already asking for <a
href="http://www.ispu.us/pages/articles/2914/articleDetailPB.html">gun
control</a> in the US.
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One of the murderer’s relatives mentioned in some news reports is an
aunt named <a
href="http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=891311">Ajka
Omerovic.</a>A Bosnian with the name of Omerovic made the news a
couple of years ago.
From the <a href="http://tinyurl.com/39w3yo">Associated Press</a>:
<blockquote> Anthrax hoaxer gets 10-month sentence</blockquote>
<blockquote>By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Monday, July 29, 2002 11:51PM EDT</blockquote>
<blockquote>BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (AP) - A man who mailed letters
threatening to use anthrax against government agencies was sentenced
Monday to 10 months in prison.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Amir Omerovic, 28, a naturalized U.S. citizen
from Bosnia, had faced up to five years in prison after pleading guilty
in U.S. District Court in February.</blockquote>
<blockquote>After serving his term, Omerovic will be confined
to his home for six months and placed on supervision that will include
mental health treatment, Judge Alan Nevas ordered.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Federal prosecutors said Omerovic mailed letters
in October to Gov. John Rowland, the Coast Guard, Marine Corps and
other public agencies in Connecticut. The letters referred to the Sept.
11 terrorist attacks.</blockquote>
<blockquote>“This is only the beginning,†the letters said.
“Americans will die. Death to America and Israel.â€</blockquote>
<blockquote>The letters did not contain anthrax or any other substance.</blockquote>
<blockquote>Federal officials said there was no evidence that Omerovic had access to anthrax.</blockquote>
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<blockquote><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnians"><strong>Bosnians</strong></a>
When in 1990 the name Bosniaks was re-introduced to replace the term
Muslim it was too late for that term to be realistically accepted by
non-Muslim Bosnians, as they were already naturalized into Serb and
Croat nations and further radicalized by the ethnic animosities among
all three ethnic groups…</blockquote>
Posted by: justamomof4 at February 13, 2007 09:26 PM (MAPKL)
Posted by: blackflag at February 13, 2007 10:12 PM (hFE33)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 13, 2007 11:21 PM (E0zAj)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 13, 2007 11:32 PM (E0zAj)
"Sulejman"?
I've heard it said that in the local Utah press, this guys name was being pronounced as "SOLOMON".
Yep...good ol Sol just out for a little retribution.....
wow...is the media trying to throw people off the trail or what?
By the by folks....the Jawa Report got an honorable mention today on the Hugh Hewitt show. Shout out to Don in Ogden!
Posted by: mrclark at February 14, 2007 12:07 AM (yVq2s)
Solomon! Hilarious, in a very black way. Hiding the true nature of the terrorist and insinuating it was one of dem Joos in one fell swoop.
There are some sick people in this country.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 14, 2007 01:28 AM (Dt3sl)
Posted by: Buzzy at February 14, 2007 02:54 AM (+sYX1)
since been removed. I captured the screenshot below, and some of the
links I clicked were a '404 - page not found' error, despite the fact
the articles were posted just hours before. Of those listed, Worldnet
Daily (and Jawa Report) is the only one that pursues the link.
http://www.snapdrive.net/files/255441/mallmuslim.jpg
What people must understand about Islamic attacks by American Muslims
in America, is that Islam forbids it! American Muslims can go to other
countries and commit acts of terrorism, as we saw in Somolia. Foreign
Muslims can come to America to commit acts of terrorism, as we saw on
9/11. But as far as American Muslims attacking American targets, it
cannot be done at this time. It is forbidden in Islam! It is called the
"Covenant of Security."
These acts we are seeing are being committed by individual Muslims who
are unaware of what true Islam mandates. Find more about it here:
http://www.globaldefensegroup.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=58&Itemid=85
Posted by: DJM at February 14, 2007 06:41 AM (d2Ujc)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 14, 2007 11:05 AM (iAgZm)
Link? I don't see it.
Posted by: Howie at February 14, 2007 11:27 AM (YHZAl)
Give it up, tard-boy. Islam expressly commands its diseased followers to murder and enslave all non-islamopithecines. Your "covenant of security" is just more taqiya.
Go bow to that chunk of rock or whatever in Mecca.
Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at February 14, 2007 04:42 PM (Dt3sl)
Posted by: greyrooster at February 18, 2007 06:51 PM (v+LdF)
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