October 04, 2006

YouTube Suspending Anti-Jihad Accounts

The YouTube Jihad continues. Michelle's video account has been suspended. We just received notice from YouTube that the account for Sout al Kuffar is in also in jeopardy of being suspended:

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Just so there is no mistake, this action is a direct result of the fact that we lampooned media coverage of the Lebanon-Israeli conflict with our videos "All Your Fakes" and "Rocket Ride."

"Rocket Ride" is now gone from YouTube. I'll upload it somewhere else and post the link later. "All Your Fakes" is still up. If you missed it the first time, you may want to watch it while you still can:

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1 I question the timing... oh, and big oil money is behind this.
 
Actually, i'm guessing there is big oil money behind this, but it originates in the hell hole known as the "middle East".
 
Is there way to get a list of YouTube investors?

Posted by: Editor at October 04, 2006 02:51 PM (adpJH)

2 You know, Forbes magazine just did a piece about YouTube's founders.  Maybe Michelle should use her contacts at FoxNews to alert Malcom Forbes about how YouTube censors Conservative speech.

Posted by: Northern Cross at October 04, 2006 03:07 PM (mtrrA)

3

Jesus not Rocket Ride. My goodness they must not have like my linking all those jihadi videos they have at paduanjawa.blogspot.com.  That is why they are taking it out on you.


Posted by: Howie at October 04, 2006 03:31 PM (YdcZ0)

4 No, kill YouTube. All of Michelle's readers, all of us in the conservative community ought to complain about every piece of video on that site - no matter how innocuous, no matter what its subject matter.

There is nothing particularly special about YouTube that any competent web developer with gobs of server space can't create.

The owner's craven disregard for their own TOCs (witness: the jihadi murder videos) uncovered earlier this year proves that they don't deserve our custom.

This has to end now.

Posted by: Nora Charles at October 04, 2006 03:55 PM (8ZPYI)

5 YouTube dumped a 50 video collection of marine videos/IraqA-Stan  that i know of.  I just sent this to the collector thanks.
 
he wrote them and was given the usual pc anti-American lies while they let all the agit-prop from our enemies sail right thru.

Posted by: Rubin at October 04, 2006 03:55 PM (mrN3O)

6 No, kill YouTube. All of Michelle's readers, all of us in the conservative community ought to complain about every piece of video on that site - no matter how innocuous, no matter what its subject matter.

There is nothing particularly special about YouTube that any competent web developer with gobs of server space can't create.

The owner's craven disregard for their own TOCs (witness: the jihadi murder videos) uncovered earlier this year proves that they don't deserve our custom.

This has to end now.

Posted by: Nora Charles at October 04, 2006 03:56 PM (8ZPYI)

7 I just went to YouTube, did a search on "Olberman" and flagged all his videos with "racist or ethnically insensitive content."
I highly recommend it.

Posted by: CLARK at October 04, 2006 04:08 PM (KWgfz)

8 Don't complain. Compete. Put them out of business. This is a good opportunity for a bold entrepreneur.

Posted by: French Trader at October 04, 2006 04:10 PM (B3hMb)

9 Right behind you Clark!

Posted by: QC at October 04, 2006 04:11 PM (PX+vn)

10 I notice that the Hezbollah propaganda videos were removed today from Youtube... Were they flagged inapropriate?

Posted by: ttsail at October 04, 2006 04:17 PM (CJF/r)

11 Yallah Ya Nasrallah was also flagged as inappropriate for under 18s on YT. Too bad. It was the overnight anthem of optimism for the Freeworld in the recent Lebanon War. Here's a way to see it w/o registration: http://islamthreat.blogspot.com/2006/07/yallah-ya-nasrallah.html


Posted by: AndreSzara at October 04, 2006 04:24 PM (IwZYX)

12 Fmeh...no big deal. YT probably got a 'desist or get beheaded' notice from some upstart jihadi brigade so they decided to make a prudent choice. More dhimmitude from the appeasers, nothing new here.

Posted by: Bishop at October 04, 2006 04:28 PM (1Pmck)

13 The conservative community now needs its own video hosting service.

Posted by: Ernie Oporto at October 04, 2006 04:42 PM (/lpvu)

14 One question though, for me who is a YT newbie; are you able to download the vids to your comp? If so, how?

Posted by: Bishop at October 04, 2006 04:47 PM (1Pmck)

15 No, as far as I can tell you can't download youtube vids without a special program.

Posted by: Rusty at October 04, 2006 05:41 PM (JQjhA)

16 One question though, for me who is a YT newbie; are you able to download the vids to your comp? If so, how?


Plug YouTube video links into this page. It'll return a URL that you can download. To play the files under Windows, you'll need either MPlayer or ffdshow and the FLV Splitter (these two will let you play FLV files in Windows Media Player).

For Linux or Mac OS X, you'll want to use MPlayer.

Posted by: salfter at October 04, 2006 06:53 PM (+Epz5)

17 One question though, for me who is a YT newbie; are you able to download the vids to your comp? If so, how?


Plug YouTube video links into this page. It'll return a URL that you can download with whatever you want (Firefox, wget, etc.). To play the files under Windows, you'll need either MPlayer or ffdshow and the FLV Splitter (these two will let you play FLV files in Windows Media Player). For Linux or Mac OS X, you'll want to use MPlayer.


Posted by: salfter at October 04, 2006 06:57 PM (+Epz5)

Posted by: Some Dude at October 04, 2006 07:06 PM (/ftnZ)

19 The best defense is a good offense....

This is just another front in the PR war. If they can flag conservative videos as racially insensitive, then we can do the same. I say we start flagging every pro- Hezbollah, Hamas, and even CAIR video as "racially or ethically insensitive."

Posted by: The Earl at October 04, 2006 07:06 PM (b+3R9)

20 From my own experiences in the trenches, I'd strongly recommend finding out whether there are any Muslim groups or sites specifically dedicated to manipulating youtube. This may be Internet Haganah's territory.

Muslims routinely manipulate the weaknesses of the internet, particularly ones that run on social networking.

Posted by: sultan knish at October 04, 2006 07:19 PM (Xqi30)

21 but all told essentially rendering that system null by reporting large numbers of videos as offensive should break that kind of lazy 'popularity ranking' screening youtube is using

for anyone who wants to really break youtube, begin finding the reams of tv episodes on youtube and begin reporting them to the MPAA

Posted by: sultan knish at October 04, 2006 07:22 PM (Xqi30)

22 Bishop, lifehack
has two solutions. One is to go to videodl to download it, or you can get a GreaseMonkey script to do it. this is a free FLV player that will play them

Posted by: Don Singleton at October 04, 2006 07:26 PM (+Yrlm)

23 I agree with Sultan -- the best way to attack You Tube is for its massive copyright violations. It exists to help people steal intellectual property on a huge scale.

Posted by: Watergate at October 04, 2006 07:31 PM (GNdRY)

24 On YouTube.com right now there is a video of a woman telling people that "Jews Lie" and that "Jews want to take over the crescent".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSNGGOuVisc

I have marked it as inappropriate. How long will it still be there?

Posted by: Buck at October 04, 2006 07:32 PM (xPvFo)

25 I flagged all the Olberman vids I could find and commented where I could. YouTube is a leftist cesspool, riddled with conspiracy kooks, America haters, and jihadist Nazis -- at least in the political section. Half of the comments I read should have been thrown out for the reasons that they're throwing out Hezbollah vids. That place radiates hypocrisy from every page.

Posted by: InRussetShadows at October 04, 2006 07:38 PM (ouHK2)

26 Wow, I'll bet You Tube is worried about you guys. BTW, to one poster, I believe that Malcolm Forbes has been dead for several years now.

Posted by: Kevin at October 04, 2006 07:50 PM (aheCs)

27 I closed my account and told them why. Not that I expect it will do much good but it's one more voice of protest.

Posted by: djl4570 at October 04, 2006 08:17 PM (iJmV2)

28 This is a good opportunity for a bold entrepreneur.

Uh, by that you mean a good opportunity to lose millions of dollars?

Posted by: Pixy Misa at October 04, 2006 08:50 PM (FRalS)

29 Is there an alternative to YouTube?
Please let us know anyone.

Posted by: Paul at October 04, 2006 08:56 PM (VKmRw)

30 I can have a you tube knock off done in about a day. Have lots of bandwidth, if you are interested, let me know..

Posted by: streamersolution at October 04, 2006 09:01 PM (XT7EP)

31 I can have a you tube knock off done in about a day. Have lots of bandwidth, if you are interested, let me know..

Posted by: streamersolution at October 04, 2006 09:02 PM (XT7EP)

32 You realize it's those Zionists behind this. They control the media, oil, banks, etc... C'MON! Stop ignoring the obvious!

Posted by: Michael at October 04, 2006 09:35 PM (WUh80)

33 It gets worse. All of this is coinciding with Ahmed Bedier's (aka CAIR's Florida main man) flooding of YouTube with CAIR taqiyya videos. Once he uploaded tons of films, all of the sudden things got really rough on us anti-jihadis. I'm still holding out, and uploading to iFilm as backup, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

To make matters worse, Bedier is now featuring a video on his YouTube page by user "ummahfilms" of www.ummahfilms.com. This double shot of slick, well funded propaganda (and outright lies) is taking over YT through the tags, pushing out all other videos on the related videos lists, due to the sheer number of Bedier's. But we do win some sometimes. Some of mine pop up as "related videos" to some of Bediers, so if I drop off the planet, will you guys make sure that the right people are investigated? LOL!!

Seriously check it out. http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bedier

And how dare they take down Rocket Ride! I might do a new video just to rant about that! What was objectionable again? Oh yeah, it's YT. Look in their terms and guess, because they'll never respond.

PG

Posted by: Pim's Ghost at October 04, 2006 10:22 PM (TK5Ak)

34 Finding (or making) an alternative to YouTube should n't be hard. Under no circumstances should we put up with discrimination against traditionalist views.

Posted by: pete at October 04, 2006 11:01 PM (lBFL9)

35 You should ask them why "Juba" is acceptable and this isn't. The press, and I never thought I would say this, seems to be intentionally lying to the public. WTF?

Posted by: mike at October 04, 2006 11:17 PM (KZ/BB)

36 For a cutting-edge collection of resistance leadership videos, you're all welcome to view, post, and comment at www.DemoCast.TV (a branch of www.Joo-Tube.com)

Posted by: DemoCast at October 05, 2006 12:15 AM (unUJ4)

37 www.guba.com

www.gofish.com

There's more then just YouTube out there.

Posted by: Robert at October 05, 2006 12:23 AM (lqr3P)

38 It gets worse. All of this is coinciding with Ahmed Bedier's (aka CAIR's Florida main man) flooding of YouTube with CAIR taqiyya videos. Once he uploaded tons of films, all of the sudden things got really rough on us anti-jihadis.

Y'know, the 'flag as innapropriate' button is there for anyone to click on.

There isn't anything I can see that prevents us from flagging the CAIR videos as 'inappropriate'.

Posted by: rosignol at October 05, 2006 02:10 AM (ofA/v)

39 Michelle is just a stupid slant eye. Crying because she doesn't get her way.

Posted by: Greyrooster at October 05, 2006 06:37 AM (xJ3Xm)

40 Google has a beta video that is now in use--I have no idea how they are regarding censoring.

This is not just the video services. Yahoo is just as bad. There "Yahoo Answers" is suspending and deleting accounts all over the place if your on the anti-jihad side of current events.

Jihadists patrol these places and target you and then report your acct. knowing that YouTube,Answers and other like sites have no way to investagate every complaint and so its is left to computer generated bannings.

The Jihadists or their fans are stalking.

Posted by: Bubbi at October 05, 2006 08:39 AM (sj6On)

41 One problem is also the amount of videos in Arabic, which most of the management of these sites do not speak or have translators for. I'm working on that one, as I know an Arabic speaker who isn't Muslim or even Arab. Those definitely need to be flagged, but unless a translation is provided it's hard to do.

Yes, there are alternatives to YouTube. YT is just one of the most popular at the moment, and I see no reason for it to become a forbidden zone for anti-jihadists. I know it seems whiny, but when they "reject" one of your videos, it really makes your blood boil!

The CAIR videos skirt the rules very carefully. It's not against YouTube rules to lie about what is or isn't in the Quran, and most of them are from news shows in which the hosts are usually disagreeing or questioning the CAIR reps. But not with user "ummahfilms", who is being promoted by CAIR's Bedier. Check him out.

Posted by: Pim's Ghost at October 05, 2006 09:26 AM (TK5Ak)

42 " Michelle is just a stupid slant-eye. Crying because she doesn't get her way. "
 
Right Howie! And what do you do when you don't get your way? I know!  Ban! Ban!  Delete! Delete! Modify! Edit! I'll bet Michelle has bigger balls than you!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at October 05, 2006 11:23 AM (Dd86v)

43 Larry,  That was not me it was Rooster. 

Posted by: Darth Odie at October 05, 2006 11:35 AM (YdcZ0)

44 I think I'll just flag and report every bit of content I find offensive, hateful, or defamatory.

If we all do that, Youtube isn't going to have very much fun trying to tell us how to think. They'll change their ways.

Posted by: DJ at October 05, 2006 01:52 PM (24SEk)

45 Here's a good one.

It's titled:
Proving that the Bible is repulsive

I'm betting it wouldn't be up there long if it was about proving the Koran wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkXOwBIRX7Y&mode=related&search=

If you want to go and flag it.

Posted by: DJ at October 05, 2006 02:11 PM (24SEk)

46 I agree with streamersolution about fighting back with a counter YouTube. Heck I would even learn how to make vids to put on a site like that

Meanwhile yes, lets tag anything we find offensive to us at YouTube. I am against censorship BUT I am not against retaliation.
Their TOS allows them literally to be as biased about what the censor, as they like, and the actual wording does not require any semblance of fairness on YouTubes part.
I see no reason not to let our own bias play with the same toys. It is after all a free country...
USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 05, 2006 02:56 PM (2OHpj)

47 google video so far does not seem to engage in political censorship

google video also has far less downtime than youtube

and google video is far less likely to begin integrating metacafe style video lists into your embedded video

google video however does not allow any copyright violations and thus any videos that feature news broadcasts or footage will not be put up

Posted by: sultan knish at October 05, 2006 03:01 PM (Xqi30)

48 ""On YouTube.com right now there is a video of a woman telling people that "Jews Lie" and that "Jews want to take over the crescent".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSNGGOuVisc

I have marked it as inappropriate. How long will it still be there?

Posted by: Buck at October 4, 2006 07:32 PM ""

Apparently removed from YouTube for "Copyright Infringment"

Hmmmmm....
well thats good anyway I guess.

USA all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at October 05, 2006 03:14 PM (2OHpj)

49 There are two things going on here: one is the denial to conservatives of You Tube's server space/ hosting. The other is that an extremely popular website is becoming a playground for anti American sentiment. The first one is an issue that can be dealt with by starting an alternative site or just paying for hosting elsewhere. The second is really something that we can't deal with, since for every You tube that floats, about 100 more sink, and any site, especially one aimed at conservatives, would have a very hard time getting the same main stream exposure that the Jihadis on You Tube get.

Posted by: Max at October 05, 2006 09:02 PM (aWGyw)

50 Y'all are fun (and sometimes a bit scary) to read.

From reading these posts, you'd think YouTube was a government agency that's suppressing your right to free speech. The internet presents virtually limitless opportunity for anyone with a bit of knowhow and some resources to buid an e-soapbox to stand on and shout to the world, and if it's well done and/or has a good hook then people will look at it.

Of course, it's MUCH more fun (and a lot less work) to bitch, moan, and complain about a successful site that has editorial policies you disagree with.

Did anyone ever consider that the deletion of anti-Koran content might be as much out of fear of reprisal rather than lefty leanings? A lot of you right wingers are, in fact, quite scary in myriad ways, but not nearly as scary at a visceral level as a twenty-something middle eastern male with a vest choc full o' plastique...

Let's see how long THIS post lasts HERE...

(BTW, I voted for Reagan - twice.)

Posted by: Incognito Bandito at October 06, 2006 11:26 AM (eb47V)

51 Incognito--I second that emotion. This is a scary place to me--so many people who call themselves conservatives with so little knowledge of how the free market works. "Waaaa, Waaaaa, Waaaaaa! People don't like our message anymore." Start your own site to compete or stop complaining.

Posted by: chris at October 06, 2006 12:27 PM (ztWm2)

52 Voltaire said "Think for yourself, and let other people enjoy the privilage to do so too," which is often paraphrased as "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I am one of those nasty left wing liberals...and I think it is horrible that YouTube deleted these videos. The great thing about the internet is that you can discover any opinion in the world--and differing opinions are what create progress in the world. If they had not deleted the videos, I could have seen them and commented about my personal disapproval, or changed my viewpoint and commented about that. Probably it would have been the former, but it doesn't matter. Opposition about opinions should be voiced in public--not through censoring the opinion nobody likes. That doesn't make the opinion wrong, or go away; it doesn't make the person whose opinion it is change their mind, it just...makes YouTube look really dumb.

Posted by: Jane at October 06, 2006 12:36 PM (K+Tfl)

53 Love that you yahoos want Keith Olbermann purged.

Yeah, his once a week ten-minute commentaries are really offensive compared to the 24/7 Ministry of Propaganda that is Fox Faux News.

But, let's jettison him anyway, whadda ya say!

After all, Supreme War Lord Bush tells us the terrorists hate us for our freedoms, which must be why he and his army of lemming-like sycophants work so hard at suppressing those freedoms.

Torture? Bring it on! Suspension of habeas corpus? Why not! Sieg heil? Hell yes!

You guys are pathetic.

Posted by: Lance at October 06, 2006 02:54 PM (a+Sop)

54 I did not see this video. I actually don't watch many videos on YouTube. I also am one of your blog readers that is not a conservative, not a liberal, just an interested American. So why bother to write again? I've seen some truly raunchy stuff on YouTube, videos I've complained about. Are they still up? They were the last time I bothered to check. I do agree that there must be a whole group of net viewers who are trying to tie up the entire web for viewing of only their points. Probably not a conspiracy - I don't much believe in those, but a group who never did understand "freedom of the press" means for Every Man.

Posted by: MarchDancer at October 06, 2006 03:20 PM (+pp5w)

55 Yes, flag all the videos by people who tick you off as "racist" or "offensive," because NOBODY will figure out what you are up to, and they will run right out and pull them. Are you serious? Back when conservatives were really an oppressed minority, they were much more interesting, and looked to compete with the national media. Now that they have nagged everyone into submission, clogged every radio dial, and dominated talk shows, they cry like little girls about every slight. Yeah, it would be a big risk of money to start a right-wing version of youtube, but you've got enough sugar daddies to pull it off. Knock a few wingnuts off the column writing/thinktank/ welfare wagon, and get the cash together.

Posted by: ciocia at October 07, 2006 07:18 AM (6TS42)

56 USA all the way... but only under rightwing rule.

Freedom of speech... but only if it agrees with rightwing policies.

Freedome of commerce... but only if it doesn't offend rightwing sensibilities.

Posted by: Not Dick but Richard at October 07, 2006 12:09 PM (1HuM5)

57 Outstanding video!

Posted by: Mark at October 07, 2006 07:33 PM (WOrHV)

58 I only watch you tube for the super bowl commercials, really who would watch any of this crap. The vast majority of us couldn't care, show me more guys getting kicked in the balls, or half naked women.

Posted by: Marty at October 09, 2006 09:54 AM (/urpu)

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