February 04, 2006
Is This The Face Of Islam?
Jordanian editors arrested over Danish cartoon
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From BBC News:
Two Jordanian newspaper editors who published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad have been arrested.Here's what Momani wrote to accompany the cartoon:
Jihad Momani and Hisham Khalidi are accused of insulting religion under Jordan's press and publications law.
"Muslims of the world be reasonable.Or a so-called moderate Islamic government that arrests editors for printing cartoons.What brings more prejudice against Islam, these caricatures or pictures of a hostage-taker slashing the throat of his victim in front of the cameras or a suicide bomber who blows himself up during a wedding ceremony in Amman?"
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So much for the moderate Muslims. They will be put in jail if the speak up, so there will be no more moderates who will dare speak the truth to these monsters.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 05, 2006 12:01 AM (rUyw4)
Posted by: Vinnie at February 05, 2006 12:44 AM (f289O)
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Another reason I was so mad Fri when the flip flopper I voted for in 04 came out in support of terrorists and condemed the Danes. Why has Bush lost his guts? Or has he lost his brains? I thought the flip flopper was JFK.
There is no freedom or safety in any Muslim land!
After Bush supported them they burned 2 more embassies just to show how self defeating apeasement is! It has always been self defeating. Someone should give the White House a 30 lesson on "Peace in Our Times!".
There is no freedom or safety in any Muslim land!
After Bush supported them they burned 2 more embassies just to show how self defeating apeasement is! It has always been self defeating. Someone should give the White House a 30 lesson on "Peace in Our Times!".
Posted by: Rod Stanton at February 05, 2006 06:02 AM (lwdxR)
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I was disappointed myself. I was disappointed that such a statement would be made following their complete silence over the cartoons in our own papers and the tax payer funded "art" we've seen in recent years. I would have felt only marginally better had the State Department also condemned the behavior displayed by those making threats. But no mention was made in that respect. They made it sound like our free speech is more valid than theirs. When someone is killed over this, many will blame the cartoonists and not the killers. And the state department has inadvertantly propped them up by trying to "score points".
Posted by: Oyster at February 05, 2006 08:27 AM (YudAC)
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Maybe it's time for some brave young warriors:
Every time one of our soldiers dies, or indeed, any one in the world is butchered in the name of islam, a Koran is publically burned and an effigy of Mohammad is burned.
Every time one of our soldiers dies, or indeed, any one in the world is butchered in the name of islam, a Koran is publically burned and an effigy of Mohammad is burned.
Posted by: moderationist at February 05, 2006 08:34 AM (Ffvoi)
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The U.S Government reaction to this should be unwavering and staunch, we should withdraw our diplomats from Jordan, and any other U.S asset in the area, cut off aid (if any) and make Jordan aware that we will not stand by and watch them execute 'apostates' and suppress freedom of speech, or press if we're serious about spreeding democracy in the middle-east.
I am no fan of the Democrats but this administration has shown time and time again, it will turn a blind eye to some countries in order to get the results it wants ie:
North Korea: brutal oppressive regime, China same, but sells us cheap goods.
Iran radical fanatics in power, dangerous. Saudi Arabia, same but sells us oil.
The problem in turning a blind eye, is eventually they'll poke the other one out too, as most of these countries rely on our money as much as we rely on their products we should hit them in the pocket. Unfortunately the American people have no stomach for paying extra for products, in order to punish some of these regimes financially.
I am no fan of the Democrats but this administration has shown time and time again, it will turn a blind eye to some countries in order to get the results it wants ie:
North Korea: brutal oppressive regime, China same, but sells us cheap goods.
Iran radical fanatics in power, dangerous. Saudi Arabia, same but sells us oil.
The problem in turning a blind eye, is eventually they'll poke the other one out too, as most of these countries rely on our money as much as we rely on their products we should hit them in the pocket. Unfortunately the American people have no stomach for paying extra for products, in order to punish some of these regimes financially.
Posted by: dave at February 05, 2006 10:55 AM (CcXvt)
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Bush knows the truth, but he can't speak it, because he's trying to keep the lid on this powderkeg, although I wish he would exhibit a little more moral courage and call a spade a spade.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 05, 2006 11:14 AM (qdaUU)
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I welcome the Cartoon War for this reason: moderate Muslims are now on notice that their entire religion is being blamed. The so-called moderates have been silent for too long, and when they do speak, it's about the "suffering" of Muslims being "persecuted" for "the crimes of a few".
We saw how "few" when the Palestinians elected a recognized terrorist organization to serve as their government.
We saw how "few" when the Palestinians elected a recognized terrorist organization to serve as their government.
Posted by: The Dread Pundit Bluto at February 05, 2006 12:05 PM (RHG+K)
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There is the possibility that the arrests in Jordan may be more protective in nature - along with cooling of elements of society that the islamists they to sway.
A court proceeding takes time and sometimes allows for a sensible debate to develop over the issue at hand.
I'll give the Jordanian govt the benefit of a doubt on this one - they tend to be the odd man out in the mideast looking to walk a fine line.
A court proceeding takes time and sometimes allows for a sensible debate to develop over the issue at hand.
I'll give the Jordanian govt the benefit of a doubt on this one - they tend to be the odd man out in the mideast looking to walk a fine line.
Posted by: hondo at February 05, 2006 01:07 PM (3aakz)
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The dems and the leftist propaganda machine known as the MSM have really made this whole situation much worse than it needs to be. The basic problem, is that whatever this administration decides to do, it will be denounced and demonized and repeatedly broadcast world wide how it was the wrong thing to do. Whatever the decision may be. It would make no difference. You see, the dems in step with the useful idiots of MSM have sold their souls and freedoms for the lust of power. They have lost all common sense and logical reason for their short term satisfaction obsessed with the hatred of GWB. Think about this. Don't you think the radical rioting muslim's and the Kos 'kids' have frighteningly similar characteristics? Doesn't it make you think twice when Osama bin laden's and the DNC's talking points are one and the same? We must never take our freedoms for granted, ever!
Posted by: Mark at February 05, 2006 01:22 PM (mnv9n)
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Maxie
Bush's position is no different than mine - the cartoons are disrespectful and insulting - personally I wouldn't do this myself - its bad manners. But having said that .....
Its legal and in keeping with the ideals of free speech. And its pretty common in the West directed at many un-named groups and individuals.
Nothing more need be said - just sit back and watch the "reaction" if the islamists - a picture is worth a thousand words - now isn't it?
The cartoons are no longer the issue - the islamists and their behavior is - and that's important in public relations, public opinion, and public policy.
Bush's position is no different than mine - the cartoons are disrespectful and insulting - personally I wouldn't do this myself - its bad manners. But having said that .....
Its legal and in keeping with the ideals of free speech. And its pretty common in the West directed at many un-named groups and individuals.
Nothing more need be said - just sit back and watch the "reaction" if the islamists - a picture is worth a thousand words - now isn't it?
The cartoons are no longer the issue - the islamists and their behavior is - and that's important in public relations, public opinion, and public policy.
Posted by: hondo at February 05, 2006 01:51 PM (3aakz)
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First, while the free press has to have the right to be free to print what they want, if it is slanderous, there are legal channels to pursue.
Second, Muslims have a right to be offended, but not to threaten death and destruction. Period.
With that out of the way, let's look at who is at fault for this mass hysteria. Not the Danish. These cartoons came out late September last year. Influential Muslims from Denmark then quietly went, armed with the pictures that were printed AND a few extras they tucked in there themselves, throughout the Middle East building a case with Islamic governments. For four months, barely a ripple in the pond. Then WHAMMO!
The Middle East and South East Asian governments released the flood of horrors of what were essentially cartoon images and deliberately provoked the outrage you see today. This was carefully crafted and executed (excuse the pun) by evil people.
Now, who's guilty of causing this insanity? And I ask all Muslims rampaging right now - who are the puppets?
And regarding the State Department's "quote". Get over to rightwingnuthouse to find out what they really said. I should have known better. Shame on me.
Second, Muslims have a right to be offended, but not to threaten death and destruction. Period.
With that out of the way, let's look at who is at fault for this mass hysteria. Not the Danish. These cartoons came out late September last year. Influential Muslims from Denmark then quietly went, armed with the pictures that were printed AND a few extras they tucked in there themselves, throughout the Middle East building a case with Islamic governments. For four months, barely a ripple in the pond. Then WHAMMO!
The Middle East and South East Asian governments released the flood of horrors of what were essentially cartoon images and deliberately provoked the outrage you see today. This was carefully crafted and executed (excuse the pun) by evil people.
Now, who's guilty of causing this insanity? And I ask all Muslims rampaging right now - who are the puppets?
And regarding the State Department's "quote". Get over to rightwingnuthouse to find out what they really said. I should have known better. Shame on me.
Posted by: Oyster at February 05, 2006 02:03 PM (YudAC)
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Oyster has smoked out the real culprits in this whole mess, and they are the Islamists who have fabricated cartoons and lied all over the ME in an effort to provoke violence. But I think they tipped their hand too soon, and many more people will realize that they are the gravest threat to mankind since the Flood.
Posted by: jesusland joe at February 05, 2006 02:22 PM (rUyw4)
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Woah...it has nothing to do with Muslims...Noone of any religion gets to tell the superior and civilized World what cartoons they get to see. We wrote freedom of speech into our law, we tolerate worse things depicted on much more decent things given our conviction to OUR constitution. These insignificant punks are completely out of control...We set the rules and you get to live if you follow...enough Mr. Niceguy USA for me! Wahhhh...Wahhhh...Wahhh...crybaby pukes. Keep pushing your masters...We say jump, you say how high...or you can join your boy Zirawwhatever who cares how to spell your insignigicant name...just nany nany boo boo, while we party at your old digs...I would render the cartoon to a tatoo if I wasn't sure the incompetent goobers would strap a bomb to their chest, miss me and blow up little children.
Posted by: Bob at February 05, 2006 03:02 PM (EKMxC)
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I've been thinking about this a lot JJ. And Jay Tea at Wizbang is on the same track. This is a great way to get the focus off Iran and Syria and galvanize the Muslims. This is a fine example of wagging the dog. Do you think that it would have taken them four months to decide whether or not they're angry over these cartoons? Hell no.
Posted by: Oyster at February 05, 2006 03:19 PM (YudAC)
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I can't believe these religeous zelots are so concerned with cartoons...if they truly care for Muslims, they need to worry about the effect Iran could possibly have on them. So far every time we go in and EASILY knock one of these countries down in a few days, would be minutes if we were truly commited to war, we hang out and wipe their little bloody noses and change their little diapers. If Iran and Hamas spread us out...we will have no option but to just crush them all like bugs...and there ain't a dang thing they can do about it but cry like little babies with dirty diapers after the fact...if you want to burn something...try Iran's consulate for your own good!
Posted by: Bob at February 05, 2006 03:37 PM (EKMxC)
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Oyster
Your dead on! This is all being played and staged by fanatical islamists, and in the works for several months.
I'll go out on the limb here - I actually think they want to provoke a backlash so they can play out their aspirations - not on the streets of Europe (media events) - but back home - possibly against their own governments which they tend to see an illegitimate.
Your dead on! This is all being played and staged by fanatical islamists, and in the works for several months.
I'll go out on the limb here - I actually think they want to provoke a backlash so they can play out their aspirations - not on the streets of Europe (media events) - but back home - possibly against their own governments which they tend to see an illegitimate.
Posted by: hondo at February 05, 2006 11:14 PM (3aakz)
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Regardless of all the fine and valid points made, this is all just pointless talk, because we all know wherein the real problem lies, and whether many of us are willing to admit it or not, we also know the only viable solution to that problem is to expel these uncivilized animals from among us, and crush any of their nations that threates us or supports action against us. It's time to get medieval on their asses and show them some real pain.
Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at February 06, 2006 01:54 PM (0yYS2)
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