1 Damn them. Damn those pesky Jews.

2 Did the pilot bother to slow the plane down before removing them?  If so, what a waste of jet fuel.

3 They shouldn't be allowed in our country. They shouldn't be allowed in our country. They shouldn't be allowed in our country. Doesn't it appear obvious by now. OUTLAW ISLAM IN AMERICA

4 These guys think they're being "watched".  So their answer is to
behave overtly suspiciously so that even if they weren't being watched,
they are now?  And then likely call CAIR to sue for one's own
self-fulfilling prophesy.



I don't care if these guys were lily white and freckled.  That's
suspicious behavior for anyone and there is no justification for it.



"...this was a kind of peaceful civil disobedience that should be encouraged,..."  Ah yes, spread fear and suspicion peacefully.



Idiots.

5 "Khaled and his friends were pretty unhappy about it, and while in New York, they came up with a plan to "teach a lesson" to the passengers and crew."

If people start acting this way and then NOT commiting terrorism, then actions will not be suspicious. Good work.

6 The only problem is ... when you belong to a group that is known for criminal activity, and you begin acting like them ... you are thought to be one of them. If you don't like it, then change. That was not civil disobedience, that was deliberately taunting behavior. Even the NFL has cracked down on taunting. It certainly wasn't peaceful ... it was terrorism, since it caused a state of terror in others around them.

7 I read this sometime ago and bookmarked it. Here are some excerpts.

The Plight of moderate Muslims, a people without a religion
http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/shroder/040901
America is embracing a religion that is said to promote peace as many moderate Muslims happily practice it. But as Yale professor and military historian Mary Habeck points out, this "peace" is only the first phase of Islam. The "method of Muhammad" largely known by Middle East Islamists is to spread Islam peacefully at first but always including covert groups of "true followers" who will use violence against those who will not accept it.
 
Bin Laden believes he is following Muhammad's footsteps. He did not hijack a religion, he just took it seriously.

But the plight of the moderate Muslim is grave. As America slowly admits the enemy is true Islam, every effort must be made to embrace the moderate Muslim, not persecute them. The answer is not to blind our eyes and try to convince ourselves that moderate Muslims represent true Islam. They don't.


So as America wakes up to our enemy's identity, pray for protection of moderate Muslims. They bought a belief without substance, a way of life without a Savior. Embrace them, love them and share His holy light with them. But at the same time, do not allow public schools to lead your sons and daughters to their plight. (and please pray I don't lose my temper in a courtroom defending my sons religious freedom. I can't believe what they're teaching).
__________________________
I don't want to cherry pick. You have to read the whole thing to get the point.

 

 

 

8 Sorry, I copied and pasted. I have no idea why the huge text. Jeeez.

9
I don't care if these guys were lily white and freckled.

This is most defiantly part of a campaign by the religion of perpetual
victimhood. Probably had a seminar on it at their Iman conference right
after the How to Beat Your Wife meeting.

10 What I don't understand is when they were told to leave the aircraft they refused. An American would have been arrested and charged with a crime. We let these animals get away with to much. (1) They shouldn't be in America. (2) when they break our laws they should be severely punished. I'm for deporting any that break our laws regardless of how small. OUTLAW ISLAM.

11 Its pretty simple guys, they refused to get off the plane when asked.

Had they gotten off the plane, I'm sure the airline would have put them up & placed them on the next flight after the cops were done.

But people who don't get off when asked by the airline deserve being stranded.. and put on the no fly list.

12 All this could end overnight if muslims helped in the war on islamic terror.  Until they do, they'll all be suspect.

13 No fear,

good post.  I agree 100%,

14

<gasp> Thankyou JC.

15 <gasp>

Don't gasp.  I'm more than happy to give a Liberal credit when he says something sensible.  I wished it happenned more often.

16 Bluto -

I think the wrong article was referenced. The article from KSTP, was a positive article about how muslims and other groups are discriminated against.

Here is the entire article that you referenced.

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - The police report listed the incident as "Security-Other," but some saw the detention of imams at the airport here as another case of "Flying while Muslim" - the sense that Muslims come in for extra scrutiny when they fly.

In the most recent case, six Muslim scholars were taken off a US Airways flight to Phoenix after a passenger reported overhearing them criticize the U.S. in Iraq and speaking angrily near the gate. The men said they had been praying.

The flight's captain ordered the men off the plane, and they were interrogated by the FBI and the Secret Service. They had to fly a different airline out of town on Tuesday after US Airways refused to let them on any of its flights.

It was just the latest in a line of incidents involving passengers who were Muslim or, in some cases, just not Caucasian. In August a flight from Amsterdam to Mumbai was escorted back to the airport by F-16 fighters because a group of Indians on the plane had a large number of cell phones, notebook computers and hard drives, and refused to follow the crew's instructions, authorities said.

Dr. Shahid Athar avoids bringing Arabic literature with him when he flies to avoid raising the suspicions of airport screeners. Athar, head of medical ethics for the Islamic Medical Association of North America and a professor at Indiana University School of Medicine, still prays before he flies. Generally quietly, in a corner. He said he has never had any run-ins with airport security.

"In this country, there was a time that Catholics were profiled, and they were stereotyped and discriminated (against), and Jewish people. It looks like it is our turn now," said Athar, who has written and lectured on Muslim interaction in the West. "We need to learn from their experience not to give in on this type of thing."

The scholars "thought that they are living in a society which is free, a society of believers, where prayer is something good to do," he said. Unfortunately, though, passengers "thought Muslims were supposed to pray before they blow up things."

"Unfortunately, this is a growing problem of singling out Muslims or people perceived to be Muslims at airport, and it's one that we've been addressing for some time," said Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. The group planned to file a complaint over the incident, Hooper said.

The six scholars had been in Minneapolis for a conference of the North American Imams Federation. Those taken off the plane included Imar Shahin, the group's president.

"It's discrimination," he said. He called for a boycott of US Airways.

Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said Tuesday that the group has been "receiving more reports of 'flying while Muslim' and racial profiling incidents."

An airport police report said a US Airways manager said three of the men had one-way tickets and no checked baggage. A passenger told police the men were praying and making critical comments about the war in Iraq. Some of the men also asked for seat belt extensions even though a flight attendant told police she thought they didn't need them.

The police report said the flight's captain had already decided he wanted the men off the plane after the passenger passed him a note pointing out "suspicious Arabic men."

An airport police officer and a Federal Air Marshal agreed that the combination of circumstances was suspicious, and eventually asked the men to leave the airplane. The police report said they got off the plane without incident.

"The police came and take us off the plane in front of all the passengers in a very humiliated way," Shahin said. "I never felt bad in my life like yesterday. It was the worst moment in my life when I see six imams, six leaders in this community, humiliated."

The Department of Homeland Security's Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties said in a letter Tuesday it "has opened a review of this matter, as it relates to the actions of employees of this Department."

It also said the department will coordinate with other government agencies with the authority to review the conduct of airline and other government employees.

DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said that office "will routinely review incidents that involve allegations that involve mistreatment of individuals in the Arab and Muslim community."

Shahin eventually booked flights on Northwest Airlines - to Phoenix for five of the imams from the Phoenix-Tempe area and to Los Angeles for the sixth, who was from Bakersfield, Calif.

"May Allah the God forgive everyone who did this," Shahin said before going through the security checkpoint on Tuesday in Minneapolis. "We are doing this because we want America - the America we love and the America we came for. Forgiveness, tranquility, self-control, freedom of practicing your faith."

US Airways Group Inc. issued a statement saying it was interviewing crew members and ground workers to find out more about what happened.

"We are always concerned when passengers are inconvenienced and especially concerned when a situation occurs that causes customers to feel their dignity was compromised. We do not tolerate discrimination of any kind," the airline said.

In Phoenix, CAIR spokeswoman Bushra Khan said the US Airways flight crews should take "sensitivity training" and learn the difference between Muslims and radical Islamic terrorists.

"The fact that this very small group (terrorists) has hijacked our religion is not going to deter us from speaking out," Khan said. "Prayer is not a suspicious or criminal activity."

Associated Press Writers Martiga Lohn in Minneapolis and Natasha T. Metzler in Washington contributed to this story.

(Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)"

But, good job at trying to spin this article as a negative against muslims.

But, you did convince your fellow posters, since they will believe about anything negative about muslims, without any proof, and will be too lazy to actually check out the story on their own.

"Its pretty simple guys, they refused to get off the plane when asked.

Had they gotten off the plane, I'm sure the airline would have put them up & placed them on the next flight after the cops were done.

But people who don't get off when asked by the airline deserve being stranded.. and put on the no fly list.
Posted by: Joe Bob"

Yeah, Joe Bob, in your simple mind, everything is simple (black and white).

I'm sure that most people would just get up and walk off a plane, when asked, and miss their flight without a fuss, knowing that they have done nothing wrong.

Joe Bob - you must be black, hispanic or muslim, so you know what it's like to be discriminated against, and know how to act in the same situation, right?

"What I don't understand is when they were told to leave the aircraft they refused. An American would have been arrested and charged with a crime. We let these animals get away with to much. (1) They shouldn't be in America. (2) when they break our laws they should be severely punished. I'm for deporting any that break our laws regardless of how small. OUTLAW ISLAM.
Posted by: Greyrooster"

So much for freedom of religion and religious tolerance.

We know that you don't understand this, as you don't understand most things, so why don't you just stop trying?

17
Yeah, Joe Bob, in your simple mind, everything is simple (black and white).

piddle,

if you're a Liberal, everything is equivalent, i.e., the same, one color, monochrome (talk about simple minded).

18 Puddleduck: I understand that you are a lying commie. Maybe that doesn't count. It's so obvious. Once again, screw you punk!

19 You all are attacking a religion for the actions of a few. You say that muslim extremests are just those who follow the religion literally, but what then about christian extremests? What about the 52% of americans who believe that jesus will literally come back, and the 15% who believe that he will literally come back in our lifetimes. These muslims were taken from the plane for praying, yet the article mentions specifically a man (i assume christian) who was praying on the plane, and he didn't get removed or detained. RACIAL PROFILING IS PURE AND SIMPLY RACISM. In my mind, you are all just as bad as hitler.

20 A FEW. You mean a few hundred million don't you?