March 14, 2007
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Occam's razor.
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When you pool together all the combined energy it takes to drive and build a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer - the Prius' arch nemesis.
Occam's razor.
The amazing thing? That's a college newspaper. Heresy!!!!
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Part of this is due to the environmental impact of the nickel in the battery and the battery disposal. Part of it is also due to an assumed life of 100,000 miles for the Prius and 300,000 miles for the Hummer H3 (which I think is a stretch).
That being said, with environmental impact you have to look at the big picture.
Did you know that a human cycling to work puts out almost as much CO2 as a car? You put out a lot more CO2 at a heart rate of 140 than while sitting behind the wheel.
That being said, with environmental impact you have to look at the big picture.
Did you know that a human cycling to work puts out almost as much CO2 as a car? You put out a lot more CO2 at a heart rate of 140 than while sitting behind the wheel.
Posted by: Bozoer Rebbe at March 15, 2007 01:58 AM (Wo8qI)
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Doesn't surprise me one bit.
Posted by: V5 at March 15, 2007 06:34 AM (bP+3v)
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Speaking of cars, and related enviromental issues, I have heard of another 'Unicorn' sighting. This Unicorn was somewhat immoderate though, and caused some trouble. USA, all the way!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070314/od_afp/uscrimejusticeunicornoffbeat_070314165643;_ylt=Am4gShoai6Y26da9IMcb8ZfMWM0F
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070314/od_afp/uscrimejusticeunicornoffbeat_070314165643;_ylt=Am4gShoai6Y26da9IMcb8ZfMWM0F
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 15, 2007 06:55 AM (2OHpj)
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Call it enviroMENTAL impact! USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 15, 2007 06:56 AM (2OHpj)
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Wasn't "Batteries" and there cores the most evil hazerdous waste EVA just someodd years ago? The whole driving factor of why it had to be regulated immediatley to the point were they charge you a core fee everytime you buy a battery half is refundable upon delivery of the old battery.
I am all for a new technology I just don't think the Hybrid is it by any means.
My suggestion if I was pres would be open up all oil drilling everywere (even if we go alternative we will still need the oil for the other billion by products and of course the 3rd world will still need oil) put a small tax on the oil production with initial permit fees all of which will be placed in a Jackpot (absolutley untouchable by any gov org).
Offer that Jackpot to the first person to come up with a viable alternative fuel/machine/technology/system that will
A) be economiclly viable
B) Dooable
C) Get the Nation off the Oil Tit.
Every year that went by that pot would get bigger and bigger and every yahoo from ITT to Bubba's garage would be working on a model test system to win that pot. To keep the balance in the force after the pot was divied up and to get the idea/plan/system/tech moving as fast as possible let it be mass produced by the Big 3 with retooling LOANS from gov.
I am all for a new technology I just don't think the Hybrid is it by any means.
My suggestion if I was pres would be open up all oil drilling everywere (even if we go alternative we will still need the oil for the other billion by products and of course the 3rd world will still need oil) put a small tax on the oil production with initial permit fees all of which will be placed in a Jackpot (absolutley untouchable by any gov org).
Offer that Jackpot to the first person to come up with a viable alternative fuel/machine/technology/system that will
A) be economiclly viable
B) Dooable
C) Get the Nation off the Oil Tit.
Every year that went by that pot would get bigger and bigger and every yahoo from ITT to Bubba's garage would be working on a model test system to win that pot. To keep the balance in the force after the pot was divied up and to get the idea/plan/system/tech moving as fast as possible let it be mass produced by the Big 3 with retooling LOANS from gov.
Posted by: C-Low at March 15, 2007 08:16 AM (esMSg)
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Change up: I see this shiek mommaed has admitted to killing Daniel Pearl, the bombing in indonesia and active part in 9/11. He has been kept in Quantanamo bay cuba. Shows that Quantanamo has a reason for being and that continued pressure will get these assholes to confess. Personally, I believe more pressure is needed. Perhaps a pig in every cell.
Posted by: greyrooster at March 15, 2007 09:07 AM (tipQ2)
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a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer
No problem, just offset it with "carbon credits"!
What a joke these Leftards are.
No problem, just offset it with "carbon credits"!
What a joke these Leftards are.
Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 15, 2007 09:23 AM (8e/V4)
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You put out a lot more CO2 at a heart rate of 140 than while sitting behind the wheel.
So....you mean that by sitting on my ass eating steaks from those evil methane spewing cattle I am saving the planet? Take that lefties.
So....you mean that by sitting on my ass eating steaks from those evil methane spewing cattle I am saving the planet? Take that lefties.
Posted by: Randman at March 15, 2007 09:25 AM (Sal3J)
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Yeah it is an amzing thing that it is in a college newspaper, I would have expected someone to be able to do the simple math involved and seen that it certainly did not seem plausible. If the Hummer costs $1.95 per mile and it goes 300,000 miles the total cost is then at close to $600,000 Does anyone see a potential problem here ?
The firm that computed these "costs" has refused to release any details of how they arrived at their final cost determination.
As for the ecpected life of a prius being 100,000 miles look at ebay, there is one for sale with 91K I have a hard time believing
that there has been $180,000 spent with this vehicle
The amount of nickle produced at the Sudbury mine is HUGE, the amount that goes into the Prious battery pack is not significant.
The firm that computed these "costs" has refused to release any details of how they arrived at their final cost determination.
As for the ecpected life of a prius being 100,000 miles look at ebay, there is one for sale with 91K I have a hard time believing
that there has been $180,000 spent with this vehicle
The amount of nickle produced at the Sudbury mine is HUGE, the amount that goes into the Prious battery pack is not significant.
Posted by: JOHN RYAN at March 15, 2007 09:51 AM (TcoRJ)
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I think I read thatLance Armstrong produces less than 1/2 horsepower while cycling. How could he be burning less fuel than an automobile ? Lance is burning 1 gallon (8 pounds) of fuel to go 20 miles ? 40 pounds of fuel for a typical stage of the Tour.
Posted by: JOHN RYAN at March 15, 2007 10:09 AM (TcoRJ)
Posted by: Dick at March 15, 2007 04:37 PM (XlQVK)
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How do we connect Gore to hybrid cars? Does he make money off of any of the components? I missed that in my research.
USA, all the way!
USA, all the way!
Posted by: Michael Weaver at March 15, 2007 06:19 PM (2OHpj)
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A typical stage tour burns about 8000 calories. Rule of thumb is 50 calories a mile.
I wish I still had the figures, but the paper was written on a long discarded early generation Mac. The amount of CO2 generated by a human on a bicycle is non-trivial.
I wish I still had the figures, but the paper was written on a long discarded early generation Mac. The amount of CO2 generated by a human on a bicycle is non-trivial.
Posted by: Bozoer Rebbe at March 15, 2007 11:30 PM (TpGun)
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