1 What's wrong with that? It seems like a good start for a fantasy novel of some sort.

2 Damn thing posted before I had my say...

So yeah, the CIC forgot that under Hussein, there was 100% turnout for their 'elections,' whereas the imperialist invaders could only mangage 60% or so.

3 Forget Canada. They have sold their souls. Close the border and let them go their way. I say we shouldn't have anything to do with them. Keep American jobs in America and keep Canadians in Canada. Frig em. We don't need them. American automobile makers can put Americans to work. Let the muslims feed them.

4 Actually, it's been pointed out that Martin was speaking sarcastically when he made that comment. The CIC took the entire comment out of context.

Anyways, until there is a majority government in place in Canada, you'll see more waffling on issues.

5 Canada, as a whole, has never been to bright. Don't take anything they say too personally.
I don't think their military could fight their way out of a wet paper bag...

6 Yeah, low homicide rates, free health care and subsidized education. Oh yeah, and fiscal surpluses.

What a shitty country.

7 The Canadian Islamic Congress may not be right about everything in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, but several things pre-invasion are irrefutable: Iraq was free of jihadist terrorists, was not a training ground for terrorists, and represented no threat to the United States. And over 100,000 Iraqi citizens who have since been killed were still alive.

8 Vemon: Your talk is confusing. I remember when you were shouting how Canada could not afford to do shit. Retoric for the sake of retoric.
Canada is like my family. Free health care, free education, free transportation and a little surplus. What happens when daddy's well runs dry? It's easy when there's only 6 of us and the money comes from the USA. Same as in Canada.
One difference. My kids aren't afraid to fight.
Close the border. We need them not. To long we have carried them.

9 Mike b: Are you claiming less than 100,000 Iraqi citizens were killed under Saddam?
Free of terrorists? Are you nuts? The entire Saddam regime was the world's biggest terrorist.
No threat to the United States? How would you know? Were you privy to Saddams future plans? He was a threat to his own people. A proven threat to neighboring Arab states. Was he content after having his ass kicked out of Kuwait?
Your irrefutable claim in more than refutable.

10 Grey,

Canada looks after its own, first. The same as any country ought to. Would you put the citizens of Canada ahead of the citizens of the U.S? Of course not. Canada isn't going to let its citizens suffer if it can avoid it. As such, Canada contributes what it can in terms of, say, troops after taking care of its citizens. I mean, Canada's army is so small to begin with, how many troops would you think they would be able to offer up anyways?

It's not a question of "being afraid to fight." It's a question of being *able* to contribute meangingfully. Canada has troops on the ground in Afghanistan. I don't see how that makes them afraid.

I'm not saying America should adopt Canada's way of governing. I'm just implying that I don't see the point of criticizing a country that's actually dont pretty well for themselves.

Besides, if you close the border with Canada, where will the U.S. get its oil (it imports more oil from Canada than from Saudi Arabia), its clean water, its lumber, and other valuable resources.

Sounds like both countries help each other out.

11 *...donE pretty well for themselves.

12 I see the CIG is as misinformed as the american public that decided to send in comments. All citizens of all countries need to open their minds and read the news not written within their own country before forming an opinion. The CIG has its own agenda for world dominence as well as the USA. As for you americans who think you'd be better off shutting the border, go ahead I'm sure the Mexicans or maybe the Chinese will supply them with fresh water, oil, cheap prescription drugs and technology.

13 Hey Greygoose, how stupid can you get? Close the border to canada? I hope canada closes the border to the U.S. I live on the west coast and lost my job because the U.S. has destroyed our forestry industry(oh yeah, were fighting this soft-wood lumber dispute where the U.S. are illegally clear-cutting our forrests but since we are asking an american committee to step in and stop it I'm sure the dispute will drag on forever)and I have freinds in alberta and saskachewan who cant send their cattle into the states because thousands of miles away some canadian cow is suspected of having mad cow disease (but of course when a case is found INSIDE the U.S., your government says it is just an isolated incident and that your beef industry is fine but ours is still under inspection), so they end up having to sell their cattle for pennies just to stay alive and you know who buys them..... Americans. They come up to Canada, buy them for nothing, take them over the border as American Cattle, and make millions. Pretty much the only thing still creating jobs in western canada is our oil industry, which Im sure wont last since the US is bent on taking over the oil fields it will need in years to come. You dont need us? We dont need you to keep destroying our economy. But thats just canadian-american relations...... this forum seems to be more about Iraq and Islam.... so once again I'll ask......
Hey Greygoose, How stupid can you get?!? I'll admit that Saddam Hussien was not the greatest leader in history, but he was an Iraqi leader! The citizens of Iraq are not going to follow a war-monger like Bush or some stooge washington steam-rolled into office as leader of their newest colony. Saddam did attack kuwait and Iran... but the U.S. has not once gone 1 year without being at war or working in the shadows behind some war since entering WW2 back in the 40's! They dont neccisarrily expand their borders (atleast no american would say they were) but they force each of their new colonys to buy their weapons.... tell them what they can and cannot do.... and force them to buy American products to inflate the U.S. economy. It's called Imperialization.... and the U.S. were the ones who pushed to make it illegal after it led to the world wars.
You think Saddam treated his citizens as badly as the States are treating them? Hell no! I never heard of him killing innocent women and children and he definitly never tortured them and went against the Geneva accord as the U.S. are doing. Right now the man is being held unjustly, and if he is ever tried for something like war-crimes, his best defence would be, "look at what I've done.... I'll admit to it. Now look at what President Bush has done." If their going to lock him up them should do at least the same if not worse to bush.
O.K.- Ive ranted, gotta go now but before I make my final point, and before you read any further, I want to ask everyone a question. If your agreeing with me so-far, forget about that. If you hate what I've written (im sure theres alot of you), clear that from your mind. Read the question, take a minute, and make a clear answer, not from what other people have written or told you, whether its your president, parent, or whoever, but your own conscious thought. since this is a war for freedom and liberty and justice and all that, I just have to ask......

What is Freedom to you?

And try to think politically.... not freedom is running through the park with my dog.





you got it.... good for you.... You wanna know what freedom is to me? probably not but I'll tell you anyways. Freedom to me is the right of every state to choose it's economic and social system in accord with the will of it's people, without outside interference in whatever form it takes. so who agrees? I bet even alot of George Dubya supporters will agree to most of that, up until the outside interference part. And if you agree, know that your not alone... because I got that statement right out of a united nations resolution... a resolution voted on more than once... brought up over and over again because most people see it as the very basis of freedom in our global society.... and each time it has been voted every single member of the united nations against just one opposing it...... The United States of America. Even back when they were communist U.S.S.R., the Russians agreed to it. So it just makes me wanna ask.... What have americans got against freedom?

14 oh and to "thespirit", canada has never been too bright? I guess thats why our educators are known around the world as "the best", far superior to the U.S. And I guess thats why the U.S. always tries to steal Canadian talent in almost every field from up north. Our government does the best with what it has to work with, and after aligning ourselves with you long ago, it doesn't leave us much to work with. But hey, our leader isn't seen as a moronic puppet all over the world, and of course our populace is not left following this empty headed toy which does only what the fingers up its ass tell it to do.
Oh yeah... and our military couldnt fight it's way out of a paper bag? I think is how you put it. Really, you can tell me, how far did you get in school, grade 6?.... 7? Well it's true we havent tried to build our military up ready for world domination like our favorite (and only) neighbors, we do go on many peace keeping missions for the U.N. You remember the U.N. dont you there pee-brain? And you know what, since the U.N. opposed the wars in Afganistan and Iraq, they were kind-of illegal, and the U.N. should have sent a force in to stop the American Imperialists. Unfortunatly, the U.N. are pussies who are to afraid of starting WW3 to stand up for what is truly just and right. Too bad.... I would have volunteered to kill some yanks.
Oh and if you think our military is so pitiful, well the score is Canada 1 - U.S. 0. War of 1812 bitch, if you've ever opened a history book (or any book for that matter) you might have known that. We were outnumbered and outgunned then, and we burnt your fucking White House to the ground. You wanna go for round two, I'd love to see that mother burning again.

15 thank you for give me this oppothing

16 Wow Tried to read it all but seems like same content on most sights what you all seem to forget is that regardless of what we feel it just does'nt matter we have gone to far and mother earth is sending messages that shes not going to take the disrespect we are showing her and that God is on the way and if you've got somethiong you need to get straight with GOD you had better do some repenting because he won't be whistling dixy when he returns Satan is here now! and it won't be long till GOD say's : Hey wassup since you's killed my son! Hey man! (His disbelife) you've poluted the WATER! wow and AIR TOO!! OK Who's responcible! Long pause no ONE wants too speak up! OK kick ass time!! I leave yous alone too discover the beauty of mother earth and this is what you do to her ( Analogy : Parents leave puppy=(EARTH) to care of a child=(US) and come back to find dog=(EARTH) half dead from abuse=(Polutants and POLOTICIANS) and neglect and the child has bullied and beat and corrupted his fellow children as well. What do you do? If I where God and I am not I would wipe the slate clean of the whole solar system and start all over and write it off as a freak accident before it invades and wreaks and infects the rest of my work. The other solar systems. Like a scientist discovering a major fungas parasite has started taking over a experiment and to prevent the spread of humanity he wipes it out lol theres going to be hell too pay folks and I just pray God does'nt hold me in line with the rest of the lot that will be condemed too ETERNAL DAMNATION! Right Mr.Bush? See ya would'nt want to be you. May God Grant and Have Mercy in all that seek the truth in him and may he grant us the courage to wipe out all who oppose HIS WILL!=(Government's Period + Source of all the WORLD'S Troubles) For us too Love and honour and respect each other and charish all of life's differences. Jesus said in his last breaths Son=(Us) Take care and Honour of thy Mother = (Literal & EARTH!) And Mother= (EARTH & literal) Hold and take care of thy son=(US) Wow I don't know why I bother even getting out of Bed anymore it seems so pointless in the way the future looks from here all the Best Everyone see you in the Next life It will be Much better I promise. For the BIBLE told me so!

LenD Great White North