Never one to be encumbered by fact, Debbie Schlussel goes for the brass ring.

One thing is lost in all the press coverage of the whining Americans who went to Lebanon of their own accord and now want us to pick up the tab to get them out.

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS IN LEBANON ARE HEZBOLLAH SUPPORTERS.

Okay, that's all well and good, I guess, despite the fact that she doesn't back up her claim with anything but her own word. Which, I might add, is a vocabulary consisting of mostly "I'LL SUE!"

So, let's examine. 25,000 Americans in Lebanon, the majority of whom, according to the blogtard, are Hezbollah supporters. How many have been evacuated so far?

120.

How many are our military planning to evacuate? 5-8,000.

Yet our intrepid warrior says this:

is it a good idea to rush to bring 25,000 such persons back to the U.S. at a time when Hezbollah is at war against the strongest U.S. ally?

Back to reality:

The evacuated Americans will be taken to Cyprus, where they can choose to go on to their homes or fly to other countries.

So St. Deborah Of The Factually Challengedâ„¢ is concerned that a marauding horde of rampaging Hezbollah supporters numbering 25,000 will invade our shores at our expense.

Even though it's a marauding horde of homogenous U.S. citizens invading Cyprus for much cheaper. With an option to go elsewhere on their own dime.

If my knee were jerking, I might agree with this:

Should Hezbollah supporters be transported on a ship named for one of the most heroic events in U.S. history, the U.S.S Iwo Jima? Should U.S. tax dollars fund the charter of commercial ships to transport the rest of these terror-sympathizers?

The instant answer from all freedom-loving Americans to these questions should be a loud "NO."

Well, if Deb would provide actual proof that the majority of the people being evacuated are Hezbollah sympathizers, I might hesitate at endorsing the action. But, then again, if all of these Hezbollah sympathizers are being evacuated, isn't in our best interests to keep tabs on them? Especially since they're going to a Mediterranean island?

Here's a nice picture of the people that Debbie Schlussel doesn't want your tax dollars being spent to evacuate:

Yup, looks like a Hezbollah supporter to me. More can be found here.

In conclusion, I have to voice my deepest suspicions. Debbie Schlussel is a mole. She's a Kos Kid tasked to invade the right wing, her mission to make us look bad. She has all the classic earmarks of a leftist, i.e.

Presents conclusions based on nothing.

Retaliates on those who disagree with litigation.

Calls for a boycott of Wal Mart.

The photo on her site doesn't match the real Deborah.

Whatever she is, she's definitely a blogtard.

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1 I think Rush has OD'd on his Viagra lately, no?

Posted by: SondraK at July 19, 2006 01:03 AM (PFaz2)

2 She realy is off of her meds agian.

Posted by: Lc Scott at July 19, 2006 03:16 AM (k29k6)

3 Why do nice tits HAVE to have a human(oid) support system. It's not fair!

She'd be perfect if she was only those fun, round, milky bags.

Posted by: Radical Redneck at July 19, 2006 03:24 AM (timdM)

4 Sondra, there's NO SUCH THING as A Viagra overdose!

I'd write why but the computer table keeps tipping!

Posted by: Radical Redneck at July 19, 2006 03:27 AM (timdM)

5 So the theory goes...If another right wing nut becomes nuttier than you, it must be a leftist desguised as right winger acting out so as to discredit you?

Buahahahahaha...Oh man, this sh#t is beautiful...Just writes itself. We are talking Mel Brooks-level comedy here man.

Get'er done!!!

Posted by: mighty7 at July 19, 2006 06:02 AM (qc/Hi)

6 Thanks for the Hezbollah view, mighty7.

Posted by: jesusland joe at July 19, 2006 06:43 AM (rUyw4)

7 The mistress of the undocumented slur has no patience for anyone questioning her statements -- or even tweaking her just a bit.

You should have seen the shit-fit -- including nasty personal emails -- when i commented on on of her columns over at Lucianne.com several years ago,because I called her "Ditzy Debbie".

Posted by: Rhymes With Right at July 19, 2006 07:12 AM (n4k2k)

8 I thought she was far right, not a mole for Kos. She doesn't seem like a liberal to me. She's a crazy bitch though. As for the people in the pictures, Yep, just look at them. They are a bunch of terrorists if I ever saw one. I'm being sarcastic by the way.

Posted by: George Ramos at July 19, 2006 07:53 AM (CnDtU)

9 The evacuees got there of their own accord, and by living or vacationing they are indirectly supporting Hezbollah by helping the economy in Lebanon. I have little sympathy for people who choose to live in the danger zone, elbow to elbow with the terrorists. I would rather spend my own tax money on my own ticket to Florida!

Posted by: Last gasp Larry at July 19, 2006 08:04 AM (gLMre)

10 Many, if not most, of those 'Americans' are Lebanese-American shiite muslims who support Hesbollah. I say dump em all on the beach.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 09:01 AM (8e/V4)

11 And lest I wasn't clear enough, I think she makes a damn valid point.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 09:18 AM (8e/V4)

12 I have to agree with you about the whole facts/data thing; I just wrote a post last night to the effect that there is generally a higher standard for supporting data and research for opinions expressed in many of the conservative sites I visit. What's interesting is that she appears to represent the opposite side of the spectrum - a rightwinger who can't bear critique. But I guess they must happen too.

Now as to that terrorist thing... Only people who *don't* spent a lot of time around little kids would think they're not terrorists! They're wily and cunning, constantly looking for ways to exploit your weaknesses. They're experts at using PR against you (especially in the form of grandparents and your spouse), and no technique is too low for them. And don't forget the occasional sneak attack, usually on something you really need or thought was safe. No, they're terrorists, plain and simple!

Posted by: Katje at July 19, 2006 09:56 AM (odotS)

13 Carlos, the vast majority of these people aren't even going to be evacuated.

Posted by: Vinnieâ„¢ - Editor In Chief Pro Temporeâ„¢ at July 19, 2006 10:06 AM (/qy9A)

14 Jesusland--how do you or Debbie know that? Do you have a single source or fact to back that up? Vinnie's damn right--this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Back it up, or shut it up.

Truth is, MOST lebanese immigrants to America have been Christians (like the only Arab American senator we ever had, Spence Abraham of Michigan, or Ray Lahood of Illinois, both Republican Lebanese Christians). How do I know that? Well, think about it: the Maronites have been losing power in Lebanon ever since the French left. Lebanon was created by the French as a Lebanese Christian homeland, but they have been emigrating in increasing numbers for greater opportunities, particularly since the 60s. Some muslims have left, but I'd guess it is at least evenly split between Sunnis and Shi'ites.

The irony of many Arab communities in America is that even from countries like Syria, they tend to have a lot of Christians, because Christians have been fleeing the Arab world (including, incidentally, the West Bank) because of the rise of Islamic extremism and bigotry against Christians. There are several prominent Syrian Christians...like Ralph Nader.

I'm kind of surprised that "Jesusland" would label all these Christians "Shi'ites" Where do you get that idea???

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 10:32 AM (aqTJB)

15 I'm just waiting for her griping expose on Max Klinger: jihadist wolf in drab and drag.

Posted by: yo at July 19, 2006 10:36 AM (Stkxb)

16 Sounds like someone is trying to compete with Ann Coulter in outrageous, unsubstantiated opinions, and in that each could pass for a man in drag.

Seriously, are either of these cunts still popular enough to be noticeable?

Posted by: Venom at July 19, 2006 10:42 AM (pYHpB)

17 This is from a Shibley Telhami paper on Arab Americans published by Brookings. Telhami is a great scholar:

Most Arabs in America are not Muslim, and most Muslims are not Arabs. Most Arab Americans came from Lebanon and Syria, in several waves of immigration beginning at the outset of the 20th century. Most Muslim Americans are African American or from South Asia. Many of the early Arab immigrants assimilated well in American society. Arab-American organizations are fond of highlighting prominent Americans of at least partial Arab descent: Ralph Nader, George Mitchell, John Sununu, Donna Shalala, Spencer Abraham, Bobby Rahal, Doug Flutie, Jacques Nasser, Paul Anka, Frank Zappa, Paula Abdul, among many others. Like other ethnic groups in America, Arabs and Muslims have produced many successful Americans whose ethnic background is merely an afterthought.
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I have several Lebanese Christian friends, including one guy in college who was a strong supporter of the Phalangists, and hated Muslims more than you do, Jesusland. (He actually preferred to call himself a Phoenician, and claimed that the Muslim lebanese were Arab and Turkish immigrants to his Phoenicia. He made a big deal out of being blue eyed....).

Do you still think "many or most" of those "Americans" are shi'ite supporters of Hezbollah? Why do you continue to think that?

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 11:12 AM (aqTJB)

18 Thank you for your support Vinnie. Just because they are Lebanese doesn't mean they support Hezbollah. Their only crime is living in Lebanon. We are not going to save them all but we should help as many as we can. Debbie is giving far right people a bad image. Even Sean Hannity isn't this far gone.

Posted by: George Ramos at July 19, 2006 11:22 AM (CnDtU)

19 I don't remember where I read it/heard it the first time. But not on Debbie's site cause I've never been there. But Debbie does link to a Lebanese christian woman who also appears to agree with her. Is she some rightwing loon too?:

Most Americans in Lebanon Are Hezbollah Supporters

http://cedarmailer.com/americancongress/pages/archive/messagedetails.asp?ID=477

And if the IDF is not bombing christian areas and they're pretty much ok, as she claims, but IS bombing shiite areas, doesn't that also suggest that the evacuess would be mostly shiite? I think it does. I'll bring you the proof as soon as I find it.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 11:45 AM (8e/V4)

20 They might not be Hezbutthole supporters but the ones I've seen sure are a bunch of of wining dumbfucks. Anyone that drags their kids to a shithole like Lebanon on a vacation is coming real close to child abuse. And then these asshole want to bitch that the US government can't beam them out of there on a minutes notice.

Go to Florida next year dipshits!

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 11:54 AM (2BOvC)

21 Ok, it appears I may have read it first from Charles Johnson at LGF, who himself was cross posted from Debbie Schlussel. So I admit I don't have the "proof" outside of Debbie's blog, except for the Lebanese christian woman who agrees with Debbie that the evacuees are coming from the shiite areas, not christian ones-- because that's who the Israelis are bombing! Makes sense, but I have no proof. Happy now?

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at July 19, 2006 12:16 PM (8e/V4)

22 Barry, Lebanon is the jewel of the mediterranean. For many years it was the Switzerland of the Arab world. It was the most diverse, the least authoritarian, the freest press, the easiest social atmosphere...I'm sure people at Jawa will be glad to hear that there were bikinis on the beaches... I've talked to people who have been there who rave about its incredible beauty. There are few places on earth where you can ski during the day and swim in the evening on a moonlit beach, but Lebanon was one. There is also an extraordinary melange of peoples and architecture, as well as ruins of all the empires that passed over Lebanon since well before Christ. I've been to Florida...I didn't see much of that.

Carlos--although the Israelis are pinpoint experts at bombing, the last time they had a major assault on Lebanon, they missed their target and hit a neighboring village, killing 100 civilians (this is what THEY say, not an uncredited Arab allegation). Lebanon is a very small country, and many Christian houses are next to Muslim neighborhoods. They are also bombing Lebanese Army outposts, which are NOT in Hezbollah territories.

That said, Krauthammer in the Wpost has the most hopeful depiction I've read so far of the Israeli strategy.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 12:25 PM (aqTJB)

23 Schlussel knows exactly what size shoe her mouth wears. The problems is, she keeps forgetting and has to check again.

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So, Mighty7:

Here's another instance whereby conservatives disown their fringe whackos. When will you disown yours? Or ARE you the fringe?

Posted by: Oyster at July 19, 2006 01:16 PM (cJvIk)

24 Sorry jd - didn't do much skiing when I was there in '83.

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 02:05 PM (2BOvC)

25 Schlussel is just another idiot fucking lawyer. That says it all. I have read her trash, and she seems pretty unhinged to me. And who remembers how pissy she got when another blogger had the effrontery to put her photo up on their web site? Shlussel went apeshit over it.

As bugs bunny used to say, "What a maroon!"

Posted by: USMC Steve at July 19, 2006 02:25 PM (FRERp)

26 She posted on her website that JFK opposed the Civil Rights Act of 1964...in addition to the fact that he was DEAD at the time, he had supported it in life, in fact he had proposed it in 1963.

Of course, she never issued a correction. Or any kind of response.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 04:47 PM (aqTJB)

27 hehe! Finally something we can agree upon.

I'm still trying to get over her assertion that because Arabs play soccer, Americans who like soccer are on the side of the TERRORISTS!

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 06:10 PM (FcZzw)

28 Did she really say that, LA? It's tough to tell the satire from the facts when it comes to her. If she did, she has no idea how popular soccer is in Israel...

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 06:11 PM (aqTJB)

29 Jewel of the Mediterranean???? Now that's funny! Ha Ha Ha! That book has been out of date for many decades now.

Barney - me neither in '83. Couldn't get lift tickets. Did fill a shitload of sandbags, get a nasty sunburn, and an itty bitty piece of shrapnel in the right thigh. A John Kerry wound - friend gave me a pair of tweezers and a bandaid. Never filed papers on it though - kinda embarrassing.

Posted by: hondo at July 19, 2006 06:19 PM (MVgHp)

30 I dunno, Hondo. People who went there after the Civil War ended said that the reconstruction was going pretty well, and the natural beauty still present. On the other hand, it would have to be pretty sweet to beat Croatia and Greece. Let's compromise and say "Jewel of the Arab World" since that's a much lower level of competition.

Posted by: jd at July 19, 2006 06:41 PM (aqTJB)

31 Yeah, jd, she actually did. I'm too tired and lazy to dig out the link,

Posted by: Vinnieâ„¢ - Editor In Chief Pro Temporeâ„¢ at July 19, 2006 06:53 PM (/qy9A)

32 I'm afraid that she did (link soccer and terrorism). I have found the URL for you - I had forgotten that Michael Jackson fandom played a part in her formula as well.

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 07:21 PM (FcZzw)

33 OK - this one is even better...

[Link]

Debbie, at age 37, stumbles upon the cutting-edge theory that Asians may have migrated across the Bering Strait land bridge into the Americas tens of thousands of years ago.

This gets the gears in her head turning...

"If the ASIANS were here first," she thinks to herself, "then that means that there's NO SUCH THING AS A NATIVE AMERICAN!"

Plans are then hatched to wrest control of the reservation "gaming" and tax-free cigarette industries from so-called "indians."

She's one of the darlings of the conservative blogosphere! I'll bet you guys are proud!

Posted by: The Liberal Avenger at July 19, 2006 07:27 PM (FcZzw)

34 This is called A FACT:

Most Lebanese-Americans are Christian.

This is called a theory:

Since most Lebanese-Americans are Christian (fact) then it follows that most Lebanese-Americans don't support Hezbollah.

This is called an anecdote:

Most Lebanese-Americans (I know quite a few of them, and am even sort of related to some) hate Hezbollah and Muslims in general. They also aren't big fans of the J-O-Os, but not supporting Israel is not the same as supporting Israel.

Posted by: Rusty at July 19, 2006 10:11 PM (BXC/2)

35 Yea jd - the Beeka Valley is lovely this time of the year. Just because the country is throwing the mother of all block parties out front will I overlook the gathering of psychotic neighbors in their backyard.

Hondo - MED DET MSSG22 - you?

Posted by: Barney Coppersmith at July 19, 2006 10:17 PM (2BOvC)

36 LA, I know you read a lot of conservative blogs, and you know better than to claim that she's one of the darlings of the conservative blogosphere.

We have our own anti-Schlussel blogroll, something the left doesn't have for Deb Frisch, who is comparitive in derision on your side.

Posted by: Vinnie Editor In Chief Pro Tempore at July 19, 2006 11:42 PM (/qy9A)

37 When I read that 14,000 French were in their old colony I was surprised by the fact that 25,000 Americans are in Lebanon.

Doesn't that warrant further investigation even if D.S. is B.S.?

Then... note that about 1/2 the Hezbollah criminal investigations/convictions in the USA are in Dearborn, Michigan per Counterterrorism Blog: Hizballah Activity in North America

Sure... even a clock is right twice a day. But Dearborn keeps coming up, Hezbollah in America is a reality and what are so many 'Americans' doing in Lebanon?

Posted by: DANEgerus at July 20, 2006 01:41 AM (fr81t)

38 Barney

USAREUR/Corps Engineers Investigation Team

Virtually every Fed Agency and mil branch wanted a piece of the onsite investigation - Navy told everyone to fuck off - it was their AO.

Spent the entire time at the airport.

Posted by: hondo at July 20, 2006 07:58 AM (MVgHp)

39 Yeah, what are all those "Americans" doing?

Keeping in touch with the mother country. Some Lebanese Americans, like Greek Americans, send their children to the old country for weeks and months during the summer. Also, the US has had long economic and cultural interests in Lebanon, much more than most Arab countries. There are at least two American affiliated universities there. Also, Beirut was recovering its role as a central banking center, and we have a lot more financial interests than the French.

Posted by: jd at July 20, 2006 11:07 AM (aqTJB)

40 Has anyone read her slapdown of the Avain Vomitologist?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2006/07/we_learn_new_en.html#comments

She likes being nasty even to people that are not even political targets. That imho is not nice dear Debbie.

Cheers from Seffrika, home of the crazy and the brave.

Posted by: RobC at July 21, 2006 04:28 AM (o0N0R)

41 Vinnie:

You're petifogging. The majority of the Americans demanding to be evacuated from Lebanon probably are Party of Allah supporters. According to the State Department, most of them are from muslim ridden areas in places like Michigan (Shit-hole.) I've been there and it's like a separate nation existing within America. A nation that hates America.

Schlussel should have made the distinction between Americans in Lebanon and those clamoring for evacuation. Those assholes aren't afraid of the Party of Allah--they're afraid of the Israelis. Most of the evacuees were "vacationing" in South Lebanon. Not a lot of pro-American sentiment in South Lebanon.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at July 21, 2006 07:06 PM (jwbRD)

42 Jeff--the majority of Arabs in this country are Christians. You can talk about what you saw, but the facts remain the same. Christian Arabs are often ambivalent about Israel, and some have allied with Israel, as many Maronites did in the 80s. Just because someone is from an area, you can't engage in prejudice. There are still Christian families living in majority shi'ite areas in Lebanon. There are 17 religious sects, officially recognized, in Lebanon. They live all jumbled together.

And American Arabs are quite patriotic, in my experience, even when they hate our Israel policy. Here's evidence for that: there are few if any incidents of Arab Americans engaging in terrorism (I'm distinguishing between citizens and resident aliens, but even there, the numbers as a % of total population are low compared to Europe).

Posted by: jd at July 23, 2006 01:36 PM (DQYHA)

43 JD:

Your point is common knowledge. It's also irrelevant. Christian Lebanese Americans haven't lifted a finger to rid their country of the "party of allah" or Syria's control. Instead of working to liberate their country, they left their fellow citizens to rot and fled here. They go back to Lebanon like the parasites they are to suck what they can from it while the countrymen they abandoned suffer. Fuck them.

Why do you assume that most of the evacuees are Christian? Just because most "Arab" Americans are Christian, doesn't mean most of the evacuees are. Are most of the "Arabs" in American mosques Christian just because Christians make up a majority of the "Arab" American population? The Christians don't have to fear being targeted by the Israelis--and they DON'T live in South Lebanon.

The vast majority of Lebanese are not filthy Arabs, by the way. Arabic is a language they share, but ethnically they aren't the same.

Arabs are the least patriotic segment of American society. They have the lowest military participation level in the country--far lower than illegal aliens, even. Patriots are willing to fight for their country--the vast majority of "Arabs" are not.

To put it bluntly: You are wrong.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at July 23, 2006 08:54 PM (jwbRD)

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