1 Rusty, you have data and a causal theory about revealing the identities of hostages in Iraq. Why not write it up social-science-style?

2 "The Jawa Report was the first American media to reveal Carroll's name after she was taken hostage on January 7th. The Christian Science Monitor had asked news media to not report miss Carroll's name in those early hours, no doubt taking advice from the State Department which believes such information can be harmful. We disagree."

I didn't know you guys were this type of jerks.

3 What's a 'social science'?? Anyway, from talking to hostages and their families, this is THEIR theory which I respect a lot more than that of the State Department.

4 We all know what kind of a jerk you are, Actus. Why don't you go troll somewhere else? My theory is you are the dumb ass agents we had here for several weeks before you started commenting again. They have now mysteriously disappeared, and you have reappeared. What a coincidence.

Rusty, you have done it right. Keep up the good work. Actus has never shown any concern for our hostages before, as he and his ilk are more likely to say "screw 'em".

5 The kind of 'jerks' who have actually taken the time to talk to the families of hostages and who listen to what the hostages themselves have to say about it. That kind.

6 "My theory is you are the dumb ass agents we had here for several weeks before you started commenting again. "

Who?

"Actus has never shown any concern for our hostages before, as he and his ilk are more likely to say "screw 'em"."

I have a friend who knows this girl, and am delighted that you have ignored the requests of the people she was working for.

7 What is it about libtards that they just have to try to make good, decent people hate them? I can't say why myself, but I'd like to line 'em all up and shoot them with one bullet if I could, just to avoid wasting more than one bullet.

8 Does any one think that Bush will do as Al-Qaeda is requesting?

No

This is what Bush is living by he instigates and creates such rehearsed acts.

The publicity just gives more reason for Bush to stay in Iraq under false justification.

Bush ordered her taking and her killing.

Bush is the terrorist.

It is time now to reveal the truth and from this day on whoever of you who decide to take up with any of Allah's enemies and the ones that have turned on Islam
Let it be known that Allah is great and he knows who each and every one of you is the trader the enemy and the hypocrite.

So let us make option number four option number one of Bin Laden and Bin Laden alone without any members of the al-qaeda.

Let us say that Bin Laden is working with President Bush right now as we speak and lets say that even going back to the 9/11 and to the bus load of children in Russia to the London attacks.

Please let us continue with the truth and let me reveal the truth I know that most typical Americans do not like the truth and they do not accept the truth, mainly because the people of the USA are on satins path and that is the easy path do not disturb all things handed only evil filled with greed with no principals of life and no values at all.

So now we have the truth out and all that really care to go with Allah in the after and those who really care about peace on earth you will listen and you will see the truth and you will take the defense of this earth for peace for Allah and for Islam.

Please make your minds clean for one moment and listen to all that is going to be said to you.

Just imagine Bin Laden teamed up with Bush,
All recruiters from Islam seek Bin Laden for the justice and the principals and loyalty that each individual has to fight for the cause of Islam and to fight against the enemies that have invaded their lands killing their people every day.

These individuals are fighting for the same cause that the USA military is fighting for in a matter of speaking, but what is the same is that they are both fighting by the same guides they are both being MIS LEAD.

USA military is lead by Bush with his orders for what?
To fight to justify the 9/11 and to take out a bad President.

That is not what the USA military is there for at all it is all an illusion created by the enemy of Allah Satan and he lives and breathes from the Washington, DC each and every USA President Satan lives through.

Now you have Bin Laden he recruits by telling the people they need to fight for a good cause Islam for Allah against the enemies and all is understandable and taken and right,
But, Bin Laden is not having the ql-qaeda fighters for the real principals No,
Just like Bush they have their own reasons for this fight for these killings, a show that will never end conflicted chaos by the USA as usual Satan loves nothing better then to cause chaos and put one another against each other causing so much chaos that you will not even know who the enemy is any more.

But for sure Bush and Laden think that they have fooled the world and they have but not this one no I am lead and I have been chosen by Allah to guide the good people to the right direction and save the good Muslims from turning.

After the 9/11 attacks yes Bush had planned for the hide out for Bin and secure of his family.
The end results for these two are world dominance control of the world inflicted by evil greed by Satan him self.

Bush and Bin have certain attacks set up to be taken out by a mislead faithful good Muslim who is only thinking that he is serving Allah when in fact he is only serving Satan for mislead by Bush and Bin.

After these attacks are taken out the blame goes on to the Muslims of Islam as from the beginning of the 9/11,
Then Bush keeps his excuses and he justifies why he is invading other countries, because Iraq is the first on the list.

Sure the USA gov society has made you now wanting to go against the Muslims because you want their oil yah you want because you are mislead by evil greed by Satan.

Then while innocent good loyal Muslims are fighting by mislead reasons Bush has justification to continue his terror acts around the world.

Who do you think killed those school children in Russia?
Yes, you know as Bush said al-qaeda but what Bush left out is that al-qaeda is Bush and Bin.

You see so while the entire world is being mislead and brainwashed thousands of lives each day are being killed all for Satan to have his way.

The USA is great for causing chaos they have caused so much chaos in Iraq that Bush succeeded his plan so far.
But that is because he has not been revealed until now.
Bush plans to let the Muslims kill each other pull out the USA troops now because he knows his work is in full motion.

Then Bin get s to come in after all USA troops are gone and Bin as promised get s to lead Iraq and the Islam worlds but little does Bin know that Satan really lies within Bush and Bush will have Bin killed and then he will have control over all the people and take out Islam.

This is his plan and then he will be in control of the oils just as the USA started with invading and killing the Indians Satan is still at his work.

If you can take another minute and look back at history of chaos inflicted by the USA.

The biggest discrepancy through Islam and christen is Jesus as who he is.

There is no one in this world that can justify who Jesus was.
The only thing that is possible to say and to know is that Jesus was a messenger of GOD and the only acknowledgment of Jesus that is important and fact is that all people should agree on this.

Islam does agree on this so why the conflict?
Because the USA wants to create chaos Satan wants to create chaos by the Americans being evil and ignorant to just cause chaos they turn around and say Jesus is GOD.

When in fact I as I speak know that Jesus is not GOD.

In the Quran it states that you are not a true believer if you do not believe and accept that Jesus was a messenger of GOD and most of you do not even know that.
You only know what Satan wants you to know.

I If I call on each person in the world to open up your hearts and minds and turn to Allah and seek in him the answer from the information that I have just revealed to all of you on behalf of Allah.

As I will not stand by and watch this ignorance and dis respect of Allah and his people and his earth not one more second.

I have revealed the truth and I will do what ever I have to in order to protect Allah by the principals of Islam for my true good brothers and sisters of Islam.

Islam calls for peace and unity between Muslims not chaos amongst ourselves.
The Quran also demands for justice to defend Islam for peace and stability of the Muslims make no doubt about this and all shall do as Allah expects from us.

The enemy has spreaded his evil across the world and creating chaos every where you turn.

If we all did what is expected of us from Allah there would not be is much chaos.

Allah will seek to help us true believers on his own.
At his will he will wipe out Millions not thousands by any hurricane or earthquake or other disasters as such as the people still are turning away from him.

He now will take the bird flu and he will make a start himself there will be millions and millions to die it will be so bad that you will see people laying in the streets dying from this disease.

It is not curable at Allah's will you cannot change.

This will be the final awareness that you will receive of this matter.
It is up to each and every person here on this earth to choose which path they will take keep with Satan Bush and Bin relief and peace through Allah.

Americans must reestablish a new government and Islam must establish a new jihad with principals by the Quran only.

I am ready to help both sides I have solutions for both sides but it is all up to the people as to what they want and what they choose.

The dat will come soon that I will be able to reveal all of my plans and we can then unite and work for real world peace.

Your Islam Sister,

Alison Shunstrom

ashunstrom@yahoo.com

9 The evil ones are the ones taking hostages.

Not Rusty. Not the State Department.

There are no right answers when you're guessing on which methodology works better with a bunch of homicidal maniacs.

Do you cut the red wire, or the blue wire? When the timer is at 00:01, you close your freakin' eyes and cut.

10 The really scary thing about Allison is that she is an AOL user. That means she's here, in the U.S. I shiver to think.....

11 The ID thing is water under the bridge - I myself felt it was a mistake without at least family permission.

Either way - back on topic

It doesn't look good for her. The MSM is in a bind. Its staked itself out as essentially anti-Bush's Iraq - but can't acknowledge its own fears and dislikes of the nature & ideology of the actual enemy.

Engage a muslim (conservative or otherwise) in discussion - you will discover their contempt and distain for the Western Left and its values - its amazing!

At least she had the courage to go outside and confront her fears and aprehensions to cover a story (regardless of her slant). The rest of the MSM will remain in their hotels and within the Green Zone and phonne it in ala Hunter Thompson.

12 Guess the mothership has arrived!

13 And all along I thought the anti-Christ was going to be a man, and it turns out to be female named Allison. Who'd a thunk it?

14 So Alison, I believe Jesus is the Son of God. One of the three parts of the Trinity and I will never change that belief. I am willing to leave you alone with your heresy.
What would you do with me?

15 actus, go back to getting ripped apart by Goldstein.

Clod.

16 How ironic that the leftard Allison posted right after me, considering what I had said. It's going to be great when they do decide to try to take over America, I'm going to build a mountain of skulls and park my recliner on top of it.

17 "actus, go back to getting ripped apart by Goldstein."

Mr. 'i'm not end of history but I know you are."

18 Actus, just go back anywhere but here!

19 Alison, go take your Midol.

20 That screed by Allison has to be the best one yet. It isn't a lack of Midol that caused it, slug, but a complete lack of any sense. My God, girl, seek immediate medical attention!

21 Rusty, I think someone is trying to provoke a poopstorm against this alison by posting her email address here attached to this crap. Especially since you said the poster tracks back to an AOL address but apparently uses a yahoo email.

22 I think you are doing a good job Rusty. When hostages are brought to the attention of the media all the time it does save the hostage's life. When people forget about hostages, the terrorists kill them. Look at Dean Sadek, Aban Elias and Jeffrey Ake. They have been missing for a year and nothing has been mentioned of them. Dean and Aban's captors never made a single demand. Their families have been silent. In my opinion, the fact that Roy Hallums's family(God bless them) kept Roy's plight in the media helped him greatly. It kept him alive because the terrorists knew that Roy's family and compnay were willing to negotiate.

23 I can't believe Allison is anything but a troll. But assuming she isn't, you can see what we're up against. Self-loathing American liberals so bent on trying to be fair-minded, that they lose touch with reality and endanger this country. I'm with the guy who wanted to get 'em all with just one bullet. I'm sure some of you remember the late 60s in the US. That was wild and sometimes violent. But I can't ever remember the kind of vitriolic hatred expressed by the left for the country that makes their pathetic lives possible. Makes me want to puke.

24 According to the Associated Press, The name of the group that kidnapped Jill Carroll is The Revenge Brigade. The name appeared in a logo on the video. It looks like Al Qaeda was full of shit when it said they kidnapped her.

25 As if NOT revealing the identity of Carroll would have kept her safer. Puleeeze.

And Allison, could you repeat that please?

26 thirdee

Safer? No.

But it would have shielded the family here in the US from media attention which could have been unwanted (at a time of family crisis) and disturbing.

Its my understanding Rusty spoke to the family prior - I hope so. If not, (and it was my family) I would be pissed.

Anyone want to argue that with me - feel free.

It may appear I'm siding with actus on this particular point - so what.

27 I think it was common knowledge in the journalism ranks that Jill Carroll was the only female reporter in Iraq working for the Christian Science Monitor. The press already knew it was Jill, so I don't know why Rusty publishing her name had any effect on the family, but hey, I could be wrong. I do know that Rusty has been there for the hostages when no one else even cared, and that covers a lot of sins as far as I am concerned.

28 Had the family asked us not to publish her name, we would have respected their wishes. It was the CSM that asked, not the family, and not because it might hurt the family. For some odd reason these organizations believe that the less publicity the better.

29 Also, had the CSM asked us we also would have complied for a time, but they didn't. I guess we are a little below their radar screen, eh?

30 More from our good friend Alison, perhaps from a previous life.

http://victoriaadvocate-proxy.nandomedia.com/special_sections/I_remember/story/2154489p-2495918c.html

31 Rusty

That's all you gotta say - I trust you.

When my unit first deployed to Iraq that was one of our fears - some guy getting himself captured - and the media camping out in front of the family's home for reaction.

NYC is THE media market - imagine the possiblitiy.

We set up an ad hoc rear group just in case .. off the clock, civilian clothes - even touched bases (un-offical of course) with the local PD pcts.

Anything goes down - we'd be there. Media would expect an unopposed circus - instead they'd get a variation of "the family business approach".

32 First of all, I do not believe Alison is a female. Female muslims are not allowed to speak as she did in that post.

Second of all, the male terrorist supporter is in a country that allows the use of the internet. This means they could very well be in the US. As someone else pointed out, that is a very scary thought, but it is possible there are many of them here.

We have allowed them to come here and hide out, waiting for the right time. It's coming, don't think for one moment we are safe from them here.

They are fanatics, incapable of reason or morals as we know them. They hate our way of life, our freedoms, and the fact that, while we are not perfect, we have options in life. They do not, and will never have.

We can never be like you, so we will kill you ubless you become backward, fanatical, and violent. That is the long and the short of it.

They cannot be reasoned with, understood, changed, shamed, or sanctioned. They have nothing to lose and no incentive to live tis life well. The only incentives given to them are to die for allah so they can go to heaven

Got the picture????? Geeeeezzzzz. How mny people will have to star in one of their snuff films before the people in the rest of the world wake uop?

Or do we want to be afraid in our own neighbourhoods of these things happening here? It's coming folks.

33 Why bother reacting to a denizen from the Mothership? Its un-necessary wear and tear on the keyboard.

34 I think that whoever kidnapped this woman and is threatening to kill her are agents of Satan and despicable demonic monster scumbag sons of whores who deserve to die a slow torturous death.. What bunch of evil woman killers..you morons.. you lowlife monsters..

35 >>>but I'd like to line 'em all up and shoot them with one bullet if I could, just to avoid wasting more than one bullet.

roflmao!!!

36 Family permission? Since when did that stop the major news networks from publishing names of kidnapped people known worldwide, huh? IMHO if Rusty was the first to publish in America it doesn't change anything at all. Please don't pay any attention to the noise of the tinfoil brigades, whose agenda as we know is to divert attention and blame everyone else except the evil kidnapping thugs who created this situation in the first place. Shame on them, not Rusty.

37 Somebody call CNN, and find Eason Jordan. It turns out somebody really is targeting journalists and reporters.

38 I agree with the decision to publicize the name of the hostage. It humanizes her and makes bad propaganda if they kill her.

I recall that the Dept of Defense advised the families of Vietnam POWs not to draw attention to their husbands in Communist captivity, for fear it would make their situation worse. It was bad advice. When the wives mounted their own propaganda campaign to publicize the plight of their husbands, it turned the tables on the North Vietnamese. Their treatment improved from that point forward because so much attention was focused on them. Admiral Stockdale claimed that his wife saved his life by publicizing his situation.

Quite frankly, the State Department has never impressed me as a bastion of good judgement. I would not accept their advice at face value.

That said, my gut feeling is that the reporter's kidnappers are common criminals posing as terrorists who will settle for a ransom covertly paid. We should not pay it but rather post a reward for information leading to the capture or killing of the kidnappers.

39 You see, once again, religious beliefs cloud a persons mind. Alison believes that Islam fights for a good cause, "ALLAH". When in fact she had no knowledge of ALLAH when she was born. ALLAH was taught to her by her parents because that is what they believed. She (like so many others) failed to to stand up for her self. Be a leader not a follower. She (like so many others)fall upon a "follow" state of mind. NOTE* I am not a DR. in the phsycological area. I am not a doctor at all. I consider myself an American because I live here, I was born here. I am a "leader" I choose what I want to believe in. I have read the stories of Jesus and Allah and see no difference in the sense that both state that what they do is for good and to believe in them or in Jesus's case, his father. I do not care for either. I don't know of any God's. I have never met one and if you have, by all means introduce me to him/her. What I do see is racial, religious, mislead psycos taking an innocent civilian and killing him/her. I don't recall seeing a U.S. Military soldier doing this. I don't see President Bush living the "high-life" while his country lives poverty. I like the way America does business. We have become the most powerful country because we have everyone from around the world (that includes muslims) unite with us. They help pay (with taxes) and defend their own freedom. This is what no other country will give them. If Islam is so great why do muslims move to America. Does Allah have stock in 7-eleven stores. (LOL- j/k .I had to throw that one in.) Listen, all I'm saying is that we are all human beings and just because we have different beliefs and opinions. we don't need to fight over that. You have to live for the moment. GET A LIFE AND WHEN YOU DO, ENJOY IT!

40 The Islamic Witch test

If she can demonstrate her support for terror her 'credentials' will win her release.

If she is innocent she will be beheaded.

The irony being that rather then being burned at the stake, as a witch, she is released to burn us.

So we can only hope she is a collaborator and so earns her safe release.

That is why, I suspect, her fellow newsies wanted to cover up the abduction as that would provide them time to demonstrate she 'deserved' to be released.

Also...

How many of these 31 newsies siezed were on their way to an interview? Doesn't that always seem to be the pattern?

So why isn't anyone investigating the potential 'leaks' of these interviewees to terrorists?

41 I feel for Jill, just the same as I would for anyone (including muslims) who is threatened and/or killed without reason. She like so many others were doing what they enjoyed most, telling the truth. She reported so many things that were vital to everyone. She saw first hand what was really happening. The only mistake was being there. (my opinion) Just because you want to be noble and do the right thing doesn't always mean you have to put yourself in harms way. As I can say for myself. I wouldn't be there unless I really had to. She had a choice just like others (nicholas berg). It's the same as what's going on in the next city. For instance, The next city over from yours is known as a high crime rate with killings almost everyday. Do you buy a house there. HELL NO!! And that is what she did. She knew the consiquences and put up tent in there front lawn. I feel bad saying all this but if I have to spell this one out to save lives, I will. America has Military. They are trained to defend and kill if necessary, Oh and some of our U.S. Military soldiers do have Islam background. How's that for Ironic. But, just the same they too are brave and they too are Americans that I would stand next to and be proud to defend our freedom. With that said, let them handle the situation, mean while, any non-military person, please stay away from there. I wish the safe return of Jill and everyone else there, especially our troops.

Don't be religious, BE CIVIL

42 T.B.:

There's lots of killing done by non-religious people, too. Don't fall prey to "post hoc, ergo propter hoc."

YBP

43 Point Taken Youngbourbonprofessional,

i was just speaking to the issue at hand. This war is based solely on religious beliefs. "Jihad". But, I do see your point as well. I think others have jumped on the band wagon. Also, I didn't mean "don't be religious" as it came out wrong. Be religious and have your beliefs but don't try to make others understand them. It's offensive.

44 Dear Taco Bandit: Hmmm. How about "Try To Explain Why You Believe Something But Don't Force Your Beliefs On Others"?

Pax,
YBP

45 the U$ should release all iraqi female prisoners- the only reason they hold them is for bargaining chips against iraqi males who participate in defending their homeland.

once they are released- and according to the BBC they just released all but 2 of the iraqi female prisoners today, then Jill should be released.

this website still sucks balls tho'

46 YBP,
I take it that you are religious. If so, may ask what religion? Whay are you religious? an Why did you choose that religion out of so many religions?

Taco Bandit

47 That is true you are no Doctor or anything in that nature.
I am a native American, I was deprived learning Islam, I was born Muslim and since I found Islam by the grace of Allah leading me where I belong.

That is where you are correct, I would have been weak and could not claim such if I were only taught by my parents Islam, but for my strength that Allah has given me to be a true good Muslim I am more stronger and more wiser then the Muslims of Islam that were brought up Islam by their parents.

I do not have to answer to any of you, I only have to answer to Allah.
But as a good Muslim, I would like to offer this to you as you were in the dark and now that you have been en lightened by this truth you it may help guide you and make you realize that what I speak is of only truth.

As for me being a female and you saying that I as a female Muslim am not allowed to speak you see that is how deprived you also have been and without knowledge of Islam.

Allah expects of a woman the same loyalty and faithfulness as of the man.
Allah expects the woman to act accordant and feminine yes but Allah Loves more the woman that can fulfill all of Allah's wishes and then to be loyal to Allah's wishes to help spread protect and defend Islam.

Please all of you go to your local Mosque and you can ask for a Quran and read it.

You should not fear the truth.

It is typical for Americans to ignore the truth and to not accept it.

But the time has come that it is demanded to live by the truth and no more lies.

You will find out that you CANNOT be a true Muslim If you do not Believe and accept Jesus as Allah's messenger.

You see, you people do not know anything about Islam you just listen to all the lies.

None of you accept Prophet Mohammed(PBUH) Allah's last and final messenger.

This is the conflict and the problem, you then try to turn around and cause chaos and create problems by saying that Jesus, Allah's messenger is in fact Allah is in fact GOD.

Do you know how ignorant you people are to even suggest such an ignorant thing?

It shows that you disrespect Allah and you do not appreciate your lives.

The USA just wants to create chaos spreading their evil ways so they can profit and change and be in charge.

You have no respect for any one or anything.
You think the way that others live are wrong because you could not live the way they live.

Go to another country a poor one and you will see who has the principals who has the values and who are the happy ones you will see that you are the losers and you are the jealous and you are the evil ones filled with hate, to just destroy and take over not thinking about any one or anything.

Only your greedy selves in what you can get and take.

48 The false prophet seeks to decieve by speaking of Jesus. Yes Lucifer tells many lies and appears as an Angel of light. The basis of Satanism is to offend god. That is why they say the Lords Prayer backwards. It's the same as when terrorists call out to god as they butcher an innocent. No man or woman can live and "equitable relationship" with God. What man can stand before God and be judged. None not one. Well there is one whom Allison speaks of. But had she ever known him she would see the idol worship and how the offense to God in his name make Lucifer smile.

We are bless because of Gods will not in spite of it. Tell me if Islam is doing God's will why are it's countries not the most blessed. Would God ever bestow such great blessing to our stewardship if it were as you describe? Would he let so many of his children in the middle east suffer if they deserved better? It's not us screwing up the world and blaming us for it misplaced.

You reap what you sow and the middle east is lying in the bed that it made itself. The wages of sin is death.

I'll send you one Gospel if you want to save yourself from the Prince of Lies.

49 That alison person just reinforces the problem in defending these animals in any way. As a native American, you should be shot for treason for defending them.

You think its ok to butcher people? You think its ok to torture women and children? You think its ok to saw off peoples heads, tape it, and send the tape to anyone? Wow. You are some piece of work.

You are sick. This just proves Pres Bush's reason for needing to listen to people's conversations in an attempt to stop these morons from commiting terrorism here in the US. You and John Walker Lindh. Even US citizens can be supporters of these fanatical hoodlums.

We are at war with an enemy we can't see. We are at war with ghosts, cowards, and sickos. They disguise themselves as civilians so we can't tell who is good or bad; we can't tell who they are either there OR here.

Mr Bush, order our civilians out of that part of the world and proceed to take care of business. The first bombs should drop the second they harm Ms Carroll. They should have dropped when they killed the first US civilian hostages.

Liberals .. sit down and shut up on this one.

50 liberals are a bunch of communist in hiding

51 Well,I still think everything I said before was right...but as someone posted on here before...This is about "Jill Carroll".However,
it is about her,and I've said really all I can say in reguards to her...I just dont think it hurt anything by voicing my opinion about other things as well...And The only reason I did that is because I was sick and tired of alot of you saying its Bush & his administrations fault for everything that is happening.You can only say that so many times before you start pissing people off...You only do that because you dont understand the facts of the situations we get put in...If you take the time and look at the facts of each situation...Then you will see what
I'm talking about...and you will also see that everything you thought before was pretty fuckin' stupid...Then & only then will you finally come out of your denial state of mind & take your first step into reality...Anyways,moving on...I'm having a hard time forming an opinion on
the "No Negotiating With Terrorist" subject...
Usually my answer is "Hell No"...but then I think about if it was one of my loved ones in that situation...I would do everything I could to save them...and the U.S. is conducting raids
as we speak to try & save Jill...but they wont negotiate with terrorist...and I understand that...but just think if it was the Presidents daughters being held hostage...You think he would negotiate then???...and Im not knocking my
President at all...I'm all for him...but whether
you're a democrat or republican or whatever else...The U.S. Policy is "No Negotiating With
Terrorist".That goes for even the highest in power in our political offices...but secretly...
you really think they're not gonna negotiate for their sons & daughters?I think they would...
but for us little people they just turn the other
cheek...that goes for "Jill Carroll" too.All we can do as hope & pray her captors will release her...or that we will get to her in time...My
thoughts & Prayers are with her family & loved ones...Lets just hope for the best....

52 Alison...you're truly a fuckin' retard...
Shut The Hell Up & go fix me & Dee a sandwich!!!

53 I agree, you can't negotiate with terrorists. However faggots like Jesusland Carlos, brad and Jesusland Joe call me a liberal. Oh how I would love to break their knees with a baseball bat.

54 Alison is definitely a retard, but ptobably a retard with explosives in the closet. If we are lucky, Bush will spy on Alison before she becomes the next suicide bomber.

If Ms Carroll is not released, BOMBS AWAY on Iraq!

55 I feel sorry for the agents who spy on her...something that nasty you could catch over the phone...And I agree...BOMB AWAY!!!

56 T.B.

I became a convert to Catholicism after studying the major religions because I found it to be the truth.

YBP

57 If God is as pissed off at organized religion as I think He must be by now, don't think I want to be involved in any of it lol

BTW, yes I DO believe in God .. a loving God. The God I know would never reward those terrorist sickos that do their disgusting deeds in the name of their god ... how SICK!!!!

58 This Alison is not an American. Her use of the English language is very much like an Arab would have when they come here to study in a university. Sorry, Alison, but you are an imposter. I just wonder how many of these jihadist sympathizers we have in the US. Thank you, Jesus, for blessing us with the 2nd Amendment.

59 I went to middle school and high school with Jill Carrol, hell my best friend went on a date with her and I had several classes with her. I hope to God she makes it out of Iraq alive and in one piece. But, if I saw Mr. Bush today I would spit in his face because I know that if it was one of his daughters in her spot he would try everything in his power to get her free. The man is only concerned with himself and his kind. (wealthy)

God please be with Jill.

60 They have no right to kidnap/Kill innocent people like that !
They are just a bunch of ignorant insurgents who are using religion for their own ends ,I`'m a Moslem but killing people and kidnapping people is not even in the "Koran" and now the question is how could they do that and everytime they kill someone they always said "ALLAH AKBAR" That is tottaly Bullshit !ALLAH has nothing to do with kidnap/killing and things like that ,every religion teach that killing and kidnaping people is inspiring evil !!!!
But anyway for Jill Caroll and family I hope that all is going to be fine and we shall pray for it.



*PS. Sorry people my english is poor and correct me if I'm wrong

61 HEY, IT IS WHAT IT IS.YEAH ITS PRETTY SAD TO SEE WHAT HAPPEND TO JILL CARROLL.BUT CAN YOU REALLY BLAME THE TERRORISTS.THE IRAQI PEOPLE HAVE GONE THROUGH A LOT.A LOT OF UNFAIR TREATMENT BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND I CANT REALLY BLAME THEM AT ALL.IF I HAD A COUNTRY, AND THE U.S. WERE CONTINUALLY BOMBING IT FOR OIL PROFITS AND KILLING INNOCENT LITTLE CHILDREN,(BECOUSE BOMBS HAVE NO NAME ON THEM) - I'D BE A LITTLE UPSET TOO.YOU KNOW.FAR MORE INNOCENT IRAQI'S HAVE DIED AT THE HANDS OF THE U.S. THAN YOU REALLY THINK.SO WHY BE MAD AT THE TERRORISTS.THEY ARE ONLY DOING WHAT THEY FEEL IS RIGHT.THE UNITED STATES HAS DESTROYED IRAQ'S LANDSCAPE AND KILLED TOO MUCH PEOPLE.ITS ONLY CALLED BAD KARMA.ASK THE AFRICAN AMERICAN,HE CAN TELL YOU RAW STORIES OF WHAT HAS HAPPEND TYO HIS PEOPLE AS WELL TOO.I'M HEAVILY SURPRISED THAT AFRICAN AMERICANS DON'T PICK UP A GUN AND FIGHT THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AS WELL FOR ALL THE MISTREATMENT THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.BUT NOBODY LIKES TO TALK ABOUT THAT.FREE JILL CARROLL - FREE JILL CARROLL THEY WOULD CHANT.ONLY TO FALL ON DEAF TERRORIST EARS WHO WILL MOST LIKEY KILL HER INNOCENT SOUL ONLY FOR WHAT HER PEOPLE HAVE DONE TO OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE GLOBE.I GUESS ITS WHAT THE BIBLE CALLS "AN EYE FOR AN EYE".SEE THE PROBLEM IS THAT JILL CARROLL IS THIS REPORTER LADY WHO IS AGAINST THE U.S. WAR AND SPEAKS BAD OF THE PRESIDENT,BUT THE PROBLEM WAS THAT ITS TOO LATE.PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT ANYMORE.THEY ARE JUST TIRED AND FED UP AMERICAN EVIL.DON'T BELEIVE ME ? ASK THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN HIROSHIMA.THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE SO IGNORANT AND CONCEEDED.THEY FEEL AS IF AN AMERICAN LIFE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANY OTHER LIFE OF PEOPLE IN ANY OTHER COUNTRY.THE ONLY AMERICAN LIFE THAT IS PROBABLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT IS THE NEGROE PROBABLY.(BUT WHO CARES ABOUT HIM,HE'S ONLY HERE FOR MANUAL LABOR ANYHOW.)BUT STILL I GUESS THEIR ARROGANT CRY FOR JILL CARROLL'S FREEDOM MOST LIKELY WILL NOT BE HEARD AS TERRORISTS ALWAYS DO.ITS A SHAME . MIGHT AS WELL NAME A STREET AFTER HER OR SOMETHING !

62 Jill Carroll's story is interesting except she might die. I am *NOT* on top of the data and kinds of techniques you are. I want her to go free though same as everyone. My message is that she's a victim of police entrapment. Bin Laden is an extortionist who can obviously have ties with the police. All the Iraqis, particularly the women, who are in the US now must be aware of her abductors identities. Apart of the confusion to get results in her case is due to Stalinist politics and more hidden agendas which you probaly think possible. I believe that she is still alive and I will continue praying for her with my mother.

63 ALISON,

Poor, Poor Alison. You have taken every word I have said out of context. I am not denying you of your rights to be a muslim. I was mearly suggesting that you should put down the "religious shield" and come to realize one thing. Realize that you "in a universal sense" are like every woman, man, or child that has ever walked this earth. You are no different except that the fact that you hold your own beliefs. Thus, it changes your personality, your perception in life, and your aura. This is what creates the karma around you. You praise ALLAH, excellent! Prasie ALLAH if that's what makes you sleep at night.
(my opinion) You praise something that is written in a book some odd years ago. A book written by someone you don't know or will ever know. If that is your GOD, than so be it. If I could however, recommend "Clifford, the Big Red Dog" you might enjoy life better as he doesn't believe in Jihad or that every one else in the world are infidels because they didn't read his book. (my opinion) I believe this would save you the hassle and it would save the world many lives.

Here's a few questions. there are so many religions out there in the world. I have come accross so many different opinions on personal beliefs. What makes yours more important? Is it important because you say so? Is it important because others believe the same? What if you lived your life through Allah all this time and when you die, there is no ALLAH? what if that GOD is another GOD, say; "Jesus" or maybe "Bumba" (The supreme god and creator of the Boshongo, people in Zaire)Why not, they are GODs just like your GOD. You can both sit down and argue till your both dead and then low and behold, you are both wrong. You come to find out that there was no GOD when you got there. What is wrong with that? Was your life that terrible that you had to quit believing in yourself and start putting faith in another? How can you be 100% and I mean really 100% that your GOD or anyone else's GOD in that matter are the true GOD? What is so wrong with opening your eyes to the beauty that lies around you?

I know of one thing, we were all given a gift. A gift of each other. We (me, you and all those that live) have what no GOD will ever have a chance to do. We have a chance to show the GODs that no matter what kingdom they reside in. Our kingdom is here and now. We have a chance to prove them wrong! They may want us to fight, I don't know. But, if that's the case, I say screw 'em. We can be better than that!

Here's a thought: If you want someone to tell you how to live your life and promise something better in your after life, call me. I will tell you what to do and promise you the world. And when you die and there is no after life then you will see that it was infact not me that has lied to you but, yourself that has lied to you. Then you can come back to me and complain. You can pay me what you give to your Mosque each week.

Forget what you hear, believe what you know!

64 Note* How is it possible that America and countries alike are capable of getting so many different religions, cultures, and races to live amongst each other in unity for so long? Is it wrong for ALLAH biding muslims to live and learn from infidels as they have and still do? You hate our religion and our life style yet you bang on our gates to let you in it.

CHRIS -- I'm sorry for you and the family and friends of Jill. Out of all of us on this blog, you appear to be the closest to her. I hope she returns safely. My heart goes out to her.

YBP -- congrats on finding your truth. I was born into catholic myself and to speak freely ment I could not be biased for one religion. I gave up my right to be catholic for a better right. I gained the right to say we are all gods in one way or another. If being a god is what creates, then we have created many. If being a GOD is what explains only that, that can not be explained, then we have found a reason for it (i.e.higher power) We are all heroes in some sense and some form.

You can save a person by smiling and acknowledging them.

65 My prayers are with Jill Carroll and her family. I am constantly following her story on the media and hope that she has the same outcome as Roy,only shorter. Carrie and I were on CNN last night on the Carol Lin Sat evening show and talked about how we have 311 days of experience in what we did in our situation . Carrie has made a new website
hostagefamilymatters.com Every hostage over there matters. We felt that Roy was forgotten at times and that was very painful. It seems that the media is covering Jill much more and that makes me very happy. It is a hostage crisis if there is any hostage anywhere... they are all important. I thank the Jawa for always being there to remember Roy . Rusty brought it out in the beginning all the way to the wonderful finish! I am sincerely appreciative of Dr. Rusty. I hope Jill and the others have the same miracle as my family, God Bless, Susan Hallums

66 I pray every day for Jill.
God Bless you!!!

67 We the people of christ, love Jill.

Psalms 31:4 Pull me out of the net that they have laid for me: for thou art my strength.

Psalms 35:17-18 how long wilt thou look on? Rescue my soul from their destructions, my darling from the lions. v18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among the people.

Psalms 102:19-20
v19 for he hath looked down from the height of his sanctuary; form heaven did the LOrd behold the earth; v20 To hear the groaning of the prisoner; to loose those that are appointed to death.

May God himself free Jill.

68 God is with Jill.

I have studied the Bible and I have studied the Quran. I have found them to be quite similar in teachings. Although I view Alison to be somewhat misled, I also view some of you to be misled. I say that respectfully. I must say in Alison’s defense that it is true, Jesus was/is NOT God as most Christians view him. If "Christians" would simply read a Bible without being lazy and allowing priests and pastors etc... to dictate it's meaning to them, they would find this very Truth. We all have the God-given ability to understand for ourselves. Jesus NEVER once proclaimed to be God in the original Bible. Don’t want to trust me just because I’m not YOUR priest or pastor that you’ve blindly trusted? Then I challenge you to go read it for yourself. If you haven’t already studied it for yourSELF, then you don’t have any right to even try to deny what I’m saying.

For 30 years of my life I was told that Jesus was God - and simply because I was told this, I believed that he was (I was raised Catholic and am now of no denomination - just "spiritual"). That UNtruth about Jesus came from another persons understanding instead of my OWN understanding... an untruth that has been handed down from generation to generation. It wasn't going to stop in my family until I picked up a Bible and read it for mySELF. The fear instilled in Christians that they will perish in the afterlife if they don’t believe what someone has told them to believe is what has kept them from leaving the organized religion and from even daring to question it. It was all based on money and organized control. Most Christians are still prisoners of that age-old continuing control. Don’t want to believe me or trust me? I don't blame you - you shouldn't be trusting pastors and priests with your life either. So go get your very own Bible that you do trust and start reading it. I have no desire to convince you – your own Bible will do that if you dare to put down your fear and simply read it. I only suggest you start with the New Testament since that’s where Jesus teaches you about himself and what you need to be doing with your life. Don't trust yourself to understand it for yourself? Then you're not trusting that God has any "power" to help you!! Do you want to believe people - or God? You decide.

To anyone else not hung up on everything I’ve just typed: A simple fact of life has always been, “you can't expect someone else to change when you won't even try to change yourself”. Being a hypocrite is in conducive to anything. There are "religious fanatics" in EVERY religion. Just because there are religious fanatics in every religion, that doesn't make each religion "wrong". There have been just as many "Christian" fanatics killing innocent people in the history of the world as there have been any other type of religious fanatics killing innocent people. Just about every religion has blood on it's hands. Most Christians would simply be appalled at the history of Christianity and the innocent people it has killed simply for not believing in it!!

The place to start in making it all stop is for each of us to take responsibility for our own spirituality... Christians as well as Muslims. Notice I said spirituality and NOT "religion". They are two totally separate things. Even if you never picked up a Bible in your life, or a Quran or any other spiritual teaching material, you STILL have the God-given ability to understand good from bad for your SELF. Live in good conscience. By your example others will follow. Trust that God guides you!!

When people are knocking their heads together on an issue, it's because neither side is being open-minded. If you're being open-minded, then it's IMPOSSIBLE to knock heads with even someone who is trying to knock heads with you. If you feel you are knocking your head with someone else’s head, then therein lies your warning that you are being closed minded.

We have to stop shutting out the Muslim understanding (as well as any other religions understanding) simply because we fear it based on it's fanatics. The basics of every religion (without fanatics) are saying the exact same things. We simply have to find the common everyday language where we ALL realize this fact. There is where peace will begin to flourish.

Alison is having the same problem other people on this blog seem to be having: you can't force your religious opinions on anyone else. It simply doesn't work. You have to take what you've learned in your "religion" and apply it to life in everyday terms. Instead of talking at people with all yer religious mumbo jumbo - bring it down to today’s life and terms! In language we ALL understand. Then, keep in mind, the only thing ANYONE can truly change is themselves. Start with yourSELF.

That's the challenge in the Bible. It's the same challenge in the Quran. Are you willing to make the changes from bad to good in yourSELF that bring you closer to perfection? If not, to coin someone else's quote on here, "you reap what you sow".

Love to all…

God is with Jill.

69 It is apparent that most people here, and around the world, Buddishts, Christians, Muslims, Liberals, Democrats, Homosexuals, Atheists; and all the other labels that people have been slapped with; or they have slapped upon themselves; are ignorant. This is why there is war.

70 No - it's because there are people pretending to be God by sitting in a "judgment seat" and getting "pissed off" and hateful towards people who don't see everything THEIR way - as if "their way" were the ONLY way; as if "they" are "perfect". NO ONE is perfect! If anyone were perfect, that perfect person wouldn't even be here. Pointing fingers only causes MORE hate. But Loving and at least trying to understand everyone else causes people to open their minds so that the lines of communication stay open and the possibility for positive change can take place.

It's the responsibility of EVERYONE in the world to stop judging. There isn't just one person or group of people or even multiple groups of people with "labels" in the world that are guilty of judging - ALL peoples are doing it. For each of us in the entire world to NOT point our own fingers at ourselves so that we can change the only person that we even CAN change is "ignorance".

71 Sometimes it's not enough to speak truth to power; power can be very 'ignorant' when its beliefs and values are called into question. It is the responsibility of every human being to question just how much or how little 'power' they have. It's very bleak when all this strife and unrest is happening at the same time that people around the world are still concerned with their own petty squabbles and inconsequential hate and bitterness. Someone or something has to give in. Will the powers that be do it? Or will we keep fighting for someone else's beliefs? Does open lines of communication instill in everyman the real power to look past their own indignance or does it provide them with more fodder to fuel the flames of their burning desire for vindication? I burn everytime I see people spread hate and fire and believe in its justness and righteousness. And though speaking truth to power may not always be enough, I still believe in its potency and potential.

72 Truth IS 'power'. But depending on how much faith and understanding you put in knowing it, determines the magnitude of the power.

Then again, this isn't the place that TRUE Truth/power reins. The material world is non-existent in the spiritual world and vice versa. So really, I have no place to speak. I realized this last night. We only dream that we have any sort of control over anything... when really, we don't. All we each can do is continue our own personal journey to what we consider real Truth. My understanding and my process of continuing to understand new things works for ME. Truth is powerful in MY little corner of this world. I've witnessed Love and Truth transform the gravest of situations into what others might call "miracles". But that doesn't necessarily mean my understanding can work on a greater/global scale. I'm not Jesus and I don't think I have enough understanding to be so self-sacrificial for the greater good.

I apologize if I have expressed my opinions disrespectfully here! I think I have a lot of left over passion stirring in me from my initial realization that I had been deceived regarding what the Bible REALLY says. I think that is what provoked me to respond on this blog. I don't know what I thought I would accomplish - I apologize. I need to put it to rest once and for all in my own heart.

If I could speak to Jill I would say: Keep being who you are... it appears that you Love the Truth and have been willing to stand up for it in your life. There is nothing more honorable than that. Hopefully, your captors will realize this and let you continue to help them. I've never met you - but I Love you - you are a wonderful example of what we all should be. I admire you and I pray for your safe return. I also pray that your captors will realize that NOT harming you will help the world to respect them and their cause.

Love to all...

God is with Jill.

73 Whoever this Alison is should be taken a prisoner herself. Would her family cheer for her like at a football party if she was flashed acrossed CNN pleading for her life? Why not find out? She has no regard for anyone's rights, feelings or freedoms - but, she has the right to have her own.
Her language skills do not sound like that of an American. Someone before had mentioned that also - good call. Not even a REALLY bad U.S. student. If she hates us, why is she here? For an "education"? If we're so horrible than why can't she educate herself in her own country? Why take a university spot away from an American student?
I am a strong believer in the 1st amendment. I think we all are to some extent. She's not an American. Even if it turns out she has a birth certificate for here, she wouldn't be one because she would be classified as a traitor. So, she's not entitled to the first amendment. It only applies to our citizens. This is also why I am a huge believer in the 2nd amendment. And people that speak like she does make me thankful we have it.
My heart goes out to Jill Carroll's family. No one would want to see their girlfriend, sister, daughter or granddaughter go through this. Nor would they want to endure it. If Alison wants to practice "jihad", go for it. Do it overseas in your "homeland" and take care of the job for us. Not every person who is Islamic is like this. That's sad because we group them in. However, Americans can not tell a good person from a bad person and we're not willing to see another 9/11 if it can be prevented. I think we can all agree.
So Miss Alison, instead of popping a Midol, you should follow in the footsteps of another anti-American extremist. Since you already speak like a genocidal Hitler, pop a cyanide capsule and wait for us to find your body. You give women a bad reputation, you psycho bitch.

74 Who cares if she's executed???

Why in the hell is she over there???

She SHOULD BE EXECUTED for being so STUPID!

It's a fucking war zone people....Stay out if you don't want to face the consequences.

I have no sympathy for this dumbass.

75 I'm not calling her a genius, nor am I saying she should be there. I said it was a rough situation. Very much for her family because they didn't make the choice. My sympathy was with them - reread my words before you twist my words. I have not ripped anyone apart, nor do I plan to. You are an American and I'm an American. I have family that has been KIA for this country and friends and family in Iraq now. My only hatred is for those who plot against us. They are the focus and deserve the nasty shit that's been said. Not those who don't think. I refuse to waste anger on an American who thinks with their ass. They are still one of us. In the long run, that's what matters. When you turn against your own it doesn't make you any better than the terrorists. They turn against their own and strap bombs to their chests. Should she be there? Hell no. It was her choice and now she has consequences. It's out of everyone's hands. Am I going to bash her because she's about to be beheaded? No, because it's not fair to the family. However, to go as far as to say it should be done to her, that's a bit sick. It's like you are endorsing what the terrorists do. It's ok to behead to teach a lesson. It's ok to take down the trade centers because it teaches a lesson. It's time THEY were taught a lesson. Do you honestly think her parents didn't tell her the same shit you said before she left? She should have listened.

76 She obviously went there because she is an activist. She wanted to DO something that was important to her. Many great people with noble causes endanger their lives. That doesn't make them stupid. If more of us would do something instead of complain and argue more would get DONE. People are different, she is exceptional. So is everyone else over there risking their lives. She realized there was a place not so comfortable as her own surroundings and wanted to make a difference against all odds. Everyone has at least one correct piece of this puzzle - if all would listen to one another instead of killing anyone who crosses their own personal line. I am reading the Bible for myself and its interesting you say to start with the NEW TESTAMENT. I believe in starting with the first page. I've been going to church long enough so to me, its the right thing to do. Only, I find the OLD TESTAMENT to be extremely violent so far. For example, when people complain about food, GOD curses them to be so stuffed with food that it comes out of their nostrils. What about babies heads being bashed on rocks?? I look for scientific proof also. We have the dead sea scrolls, Noahs Ark in Turkey, etc. My boyfriend had a highschool teacher who particicipated in the exorcism that the movie was created from. He taught in a private school in Missouri, the exorcism done in St. Louis. The govt says they don't negotiate with terrorists, but in reality they do. The things we know are frightful, but they are only the tip of the iceberg. I have great concern for our children and grandchildren. Surely everyones heard of the New World Order. One or two sites on any topic could be lies, but there are thousands on this one. Current day Babylon is not in Iraq, but America. Bush is, at least was friends with Osama. The FBI even spyed on John Lennon. This govt does not like anyone who promotes peace. God bless this woman, all hostages, and every soul in Iraq and America to do the right thing with their lives.

77
It's interesting to observe individual views on this matter. For that I respond.
When I first heard that Jill Carroll was captured I could not avoid thinking about it. I'm well aware of the horrible acts that have taken place up to this point- on America's side and on Iraq's side. It hurt to hear about these events. But this was different.
After witnessing footage of Jill's disappearance, something drifted with me as I went about my week. Never had any news story whispered like this. I had only seen brief footage of her kidnapping. Why did this "mean something to me?"
Days later I witnessed a first video release on the evening news. I didn't know the facts. I didn't know her background. What I did know was that she needed someone. When I looked into her eyes I found myself in her shoes, knowing that if there was one soul who cared for my plea, one soul who "really cared" and didn't forget my name with the news story seeing me as "another hostage" it would count more than life itself.
This is her only hope. This is what the tears in her eyes plead for, as I witnessed tonight, January 30, with a second video release. If I could I would snatch her from that dreadful position right away, not caring about statics, background, or views. She's human. I'm human. That's enough for me.
It has not been the television set that has given life to my thoughts of Jill. The night I saw the first video release I went for a walk in the night, my thoughts far from her captivity.
Then it happened.
I saw her face flash into my mind. I refused to disreguard this "hunch" though it would have been convenient to do so. At that moment I laid aside my exciting plans for the next day and did all I could do: I asked, if it was his will, for God to help her. To set her free.
This is not a story of religion. These are my feelings, plain and simple. I prayed longer that night than I had prayed in years. "Pleaded" would be a more fitting word. With the thought of her I could not refrain from it.
Days went by. I went about life. She was never far. I knew where I was and I knew where she was. She was hanging on to every second as I was sitting comfortably in my bedroom. I cared from the bottom of my heart.
Tonight the same thing is true for all of us. Our lives are not at stake and our hearts aren't beating with fear. Jill has thought of things we haven't even come close to in our lives. Let's keep that in mind.
Everyone here has something important to say. I'm not asking you believe as I believe. I KNOW you desire Jills release. I KNOW your heart goes out to her reguardless of your view. This isn't religion speaking. This is human dignity. We know what we would care about if we were in her shoes: The right to live.
I know the situation isn't hopeless. To some of you that is a crazy thing to say, and it is. But I believe it. There are things we can't explain that live in the realm of possibility. Life teaches us that.
This I leave in closing: "keep her in mind"

78 I saw Jill's tears in the last video recorded by terrorists: it is a shame their behaviour!
I know nothing about Jill, besides I'm an Italian citizen not an American one, but when I saw the video, my first feeling was rage. How is it possible so much hate to a person? Terrorists are men like the others: we have the same heart, but they comletely forgot it and could be ready to die for their idea.
The only thing I can do now is praying for her and maybe, when she is freed, she will read this message.
God bless you, dear Jill

79 I read only now the Alison's message..
I remember you that God created everything for life not for death. Infact, also who lives for death(like the terrorists) wants to say something positive, because Man wants to be happy!
So, terrorists surely want to be happy but think that their happyness consists in imposing their idea.
And this is an error!
Always men thought that the only way to save the humanity consists in killing a part of men. This is false, infact we have a lot of examples: the French revolution, the Russian revolution, Auschwitz: they are illusions!
No, the world is always the same, and the evil is the same. The evil in the world didn't die, and all of us can do it: How many times I love a person but sometimes I don't treat her well, although I love her. There is only a hope for our world: that God comes in the Earth to help us.
There is only a fact in the humanity in which God didn't kill a part of men to save the world, on the contrary died for evey man, and then raised again to show us that He is stronger than death. This is not an idea, but is a fact. You can believe in it or not, but it is a fact!
Bye and sorry for my English

80 I just reread what Alison posted on here. First I decided that I had forgotten what she had typed... then, before I began to read it all again, I realized that I should keep an open mind and really try hard to understand what she was saying since her English isn't so good. I decided it was only "fair" and that it couldn't do any harm to just simply keep my own mind open. That's what I always hope for people who are listening to me or reading me to do for me as well... so it was only fair.

Now it seems to me that, because of the broken English, Alison's meaning behind her words can easily be misunderstood. Compounding that problem is the fact that she comes across as "accusing" by using the word "you" a lot. What Alison may not understand is that most people don't like to be accused of anything and once they have been, they immediately put themselves on the defense. That's just human nature. So it's not a good thing to help people be defensive by accusing them of anything when what you really want to do is help people understand what you understand - especially if what you are saying truly is good.

Ok... so I got past the broken English and then I got past the accusations and I read in-between all those things. And now what it's sounding like she is saying is that she sees there are bad people of every nationality and creed etc... just as there are good people of every nationality and creed etc... and that she is standing up for all of the GOOD Muslims, not the bad ones. She agrees that people who do bad things are not worthy of God's Love and protection. And this all seems to be the same things everyone else on here is saying, just in broken English and with accusations that put people on the defense.

She's also talking about the wrath of God - which most people believe in as well - and that it will effect ALL "bad" people, bad Muslims as well as bad Christians etc... and that the bad people won't be able to escape it. However, the good people will be protected because God "knows his own" kinda thing... and she's not just talking about good Muslims either, she is also saying that ALL good people of all nations and creeds etc... will be protected. She refers to this sort of thing as the "truth" that she knows and she's warning everyone - much the same way the Bible does.

She's also appealing to Christians to understand that the Quran talks about Jesus and that Muhammad (the writer of the Quran) teaches that anyone who doesn't believe the things Jesus taught is not a true and good Muslim. She agrees and is empathizing with Christians to try and show that she is not attacking them, rather she believes Jesus' teachings. Although, she disagrees with the thought that Jesus was/is "God". Which is the same thing a lot of "spiritual" American's understand as well. As I do myself.

She's also trying to explain something she claims to understand about "Bush and Bin". She's trying to warn EVERYONE that Bush and Bin are both being misled and therefore they are misleading everyone else. She doesn't agree with EITHER ONE of them! And she reiterates that she is all for only what is good - as God wants her to be and she appeals to everyone to be the same way else they "reap what they sow" kinda thing.

Basically, she's saying everything we are all saying. Only we couldn't get past the broken English and the number of times she used the word "you" and "evil" and "satan" and "Allah" etc... it's a problem with semantics... not what she's actually saying.

It's no wonder a person gets frustrated enough to turn hateful over simple misunderstandings of semantics. This proves the same thing I said before though: we have to stop using words from the Bible or the Quran to try and communicate with! We HAVE to bring it down into simple terms that we ALL understand - like "good", "bad" and "indifferent" etc... so people will stop being defensive and so it doesn't look like we are pointing fingers thus putting people on the defense.

Alison, are you reading me??? I hear what you are saying! And I see how badly you want to help and get your understanding across to people... but if you truly want to help, then you have to be careful that you are not appearing to put blame on people - because then they won't listen to what you are trying to say - they will close their minds to you instead of opening them to you (that's just human nature) - and then it won't be only their fault that they are not understanding you, it will be your fault too because you "blamed" them instead of "Loved" them. "Communicating" isn't just all about whether or not other people HEAR you - you also have to take responsibility for HOW you are saying what you want to say. And, if you truly want to be a good Muslim and believe as the Quran teaches - then yes, you have to also believe what Jesus taught - and one of the MAIN things Jesus taught was to LOVE EVERYONE - even those that PERSECUTE you!!!! When Jesus was killed/persecuted, he CONTINUED to LOVE even the men that HATED him and sentenced him to death. He did everything he could to UNDERSTAND them and their point of view even though they didn’t understand him. He never had anything bad to say about them and he NEVER ONCE said anything bad to their face either! He TRULY LOVED them all the way down deep in his HEART! He even secretly prayed to God and said, "Forgive them Father, they know not what they do". He didn't say it TO them - he said it to GOD only. He said it in his HEART. And in case you don't understand what that means, I'll tell you how I understand it and maybe that will help you draw your own conclusion: I think it means he truly wished them no harm... not from him or from God, especially since he knew that they just didn't understand and therefore didn't really deserve for bad things to happen to them for what they were doing. He wished them only good. Alison, Muhammad teaches this very same thing. Say what you have to say with nothing but LOVE in your heart, as Jesus did, and people will begin to understand what you are saying. And they should, because it seems to me you are saying good things - just maybe in a not so good way.

Alison, think about what you said, "Americans must reestablish a new government and Islam must establish a new Jihad with principles by the Quran only." You're leaving out something from the Muslim religion! Don't forget that Muhammad also teaches Muslims to be like Jesus! How can Muslims be like Jesus unless they study what Jesus taught as well as study the Quran? According to Muhammad (since he teaches to also follow Jesus' teachings), the Jihad should be based on BOTH the Quran AND Jesus' teachings! Jesus' MAIN message is to LOVE EVERYONE! Although he taught so much more.

I hope I haven't come across as a bad person. I'm trying really hard here to be careful to not point fingers at anyone yet to say plainly what I understand so hopefully it all makes sense to everyone. Alison, I’m really trying hard to do my part by studying the Bible AND the Quran and to understand ALL people’s points of view. I just want to ask, do you think the “good Muslims” that you speak of are doing the same thing? Are they also trying to be like Jesus as well as Muhammad? Because I think that’s what we have to do in order to make a difference, don’t you?

81 Michael...

Your words could have very well been my own. You put it so perfectly! I can't stop thinking about her either - and I won't, as long as I know in my heart that it is doing some good. And it is... I'm sure! We are her. We are all one.

82 Truth,

She is not alone. You know as I do.

83 I thought this was about Jill but just like everything else, the religious zealots have to shove their agendas/ideologies down our throats every chance they get. When is everyone going to wake up and smell the coffee there is no GOD !!! nor has there ever been We are all ALONE!!! Now and Forever so deal with it. Why is that so hard to accept?

Maybe if people focused more on how to deal with this life and not some so called promised after-life we wouldn’t be in this situation. Religion makes me sick. The answer our current problems is the annihilation of the entire human race. This planet needs a hard reset. Can you say Ice Age! F you all!

84 This goes out to Dog,

My name is Michael. Your previous comment suggests you believe in no God. I respect your believe.
Your words do more "shoving" than anything posted. Just as you "believe" there is no God, others believe in the possibility of God. Don't mistake "honest belief" for "zealot belief".
I do more thinking of today than tomorrow. I do more thinking of Jill than the afterlife. Your words were ironic to hear, because "dealing with this life" and dealing with today is the only way we can ever grow. That's the only way I've come to believe principles my "open" mind has weighed for itself.
I know the people you speak of. Don't mistake one for another. By shoving upon others what you "BELIEVE"(there is no God, ect.), you become the very thing you claim to detest.
Religion does not make you sick. The way people think is what makes you sick. Many are not open minded. I can stand with you on this matter. Lack of curiosity creates a state of mind that blocks out growth. I like to say "now is forever".
And this about Jill, here and now. The best way I've come to deal with what frustrates you is by holding to the confidence in my own heart. And I AM confident that there is HOPE for Jill. I AM confident that those who hold her in their thoughts make a difference. I DO believe in possibilities beyond our comprehension, standing confidently in the light that you don't.
It's easy to accept hopelessness. It requires no strength. It's easy to say everything is meaningless. It requires no thought. Religion has nothing to do with this situation. It never did and never has with anything else in history. Only thoughts and intentions. Religion defines nothing. It is only a word used in conjunction with someone's mentality. "People" make or break this world. And everybody has thier own thoughts and beliefs in life, reguardless of what "religion" they claim to be.
Let's focus our "thoughts and intentions" on Jill Carroll.

85 Well said Michael!

86 I have prayed often for Jill during this trial but more importantly, I have prayed for her capitors. I believe she is still alive because God has heard my prayers along with millions of others of us. The men who are holding Jill have hearts and minds like all the rest of us...God will somehow, someway, impress on one of the captors that what they are doing is wrong - no matter what religious belief he shares. Every day until Jill is released, I will continue to pray for the men who hold her captive...

87 I love the strengh that good people can bring out. This is the kind of strengh that makes a difference.

88 STRENGTH! My mistake.

89 What I meant was "STRENTH". My mistake, though you probably knew what I meant.
Meaning is the main thing.

90 O.K., for the last time S T R E N G T H .

91 For anyone who has said something reasonable here, thank you. For anyone who hasn't turned this board into something other than what it should be, thank you. Jill is a friend of a friend.

92 lol Michael

93 hmm...

94 Truth, yes I read and I thank you for your understanding in all matters all thanks to Allah.

I feel the way I write if I do not get too proper all can understand me as you ere able to the ones that will understand me are the ones that want to understand even if I spoke a different language then anyone if any one really wants to understand in for the good Allah is all know er Allah is all wise he will make it so all can understand.
But anything that is good in this world is hard work bad is easy.
It is all up to us as individuals as to what we want and what we do about it.

95 But I can tell all people in the world this that the ultimate reason for most negative and fighting among each other then the evil that conflicts it is us as brother and sister in a home one trying to get our parents attention always trying to be better then the other so we get noticed no matter what way we do it is always for recognition and mentally this is what is happening between each of us fighting as brothers and sisters trying to win Allah's Love trying to get his attention this is what it all comes down to atleast for the good ones this is what it comes down to.
But if we think about this and picture it and care enough to understand it you will see that this is the truth.

What Allah our one GOD wants as our parents want is for each of us to get along to make Allah proud of us as brothers and sisters and some times we are being selfish and UN appreciative that we do not even think of why we do what we do and most to even think about why they would simple feel to bad and hurt for the way they have acted that it would hurt them too much to consider to change and admit and accept the truth so they go and ignore to try to hide their true feelings and the truth.

96 So what do you think Clyde?

97 I think I'm about ready to go to sleep...

98 I've been thinking a lot about that "Dog" person's comment on here. Funny how he/she used the word "God" backwards as a name for posting on here!

I just simply can't see any logic in his/her comments. I always pride myself on being able to put myself in another person's shoes and see how they see things - and I guess I can understand how he/she is frustrated... but still, ALL of these issues - ESPECIALLY "religion" are important when talking about Jill.

Jill has respected the Muslim religion. She appears to me to be a very open minded person, which, that in itself, warrants respect for her choices. Since Jill has been open minded enough to show respect for the Muslim religion, then that should warrant our respect for it as well... or at LEAST an open minded approach to even the possibility that there must be some importance and relevance in it! So I just have to rule out "Dog"s comments as being just plain ignorance and/or fear from ignorance.

Religion IS what even Jill's situation is ALL about. To NOT discuss it while discussing Jill would be "wrong"! When we can break down the barriers that "religions" have placed between us, then there won't even be any situations like what the world has been dealing with since 9/11.

The Islamic culture feels misunderstood... and they ARE!! Thus they are lashing out. And at the same time we are misunderstood TOO! So we are lashing out as well. "Religion" plays a HUGH role. It HAS to be discussed, EVERYWHERE, in order to dispel fears and misunderstandings!

Maybe I can help in even a small way... is there anyone here reading this that doesn't know much about the Muslim religion and who maybe has some fear about it or just some questions that maybe I can help explain? I'm not a Muslim, but I have studied the Quran... maybe I can help by explaining in UNbroken English, in terms American's are used to hearing.

99 Alison:

You're right about people understanding you if they want to understand you. But you still have to take responsibility for EXPRESSING GOD/Allah. It's not enough to just KNOW God/Allah - we also have to EXPRESS God/Allah. If we're not expressing God/Allah, then God/Allah isn't truly WITH us! It isn't enough to just KNOW what's in the Quran or Bible... we also have to LIVE it. Just telling other people HOW to be or even going through rituals that SHOW we know about God/Allah (like kneeling down and praying) isn't enough - we must also BE it all the way down deep in our hearts and souls!! If not, then we are doing the OPPOSITE of what Jesus taught. Jesus taught us to not only make clean the outside of our bodies, but also the INSIDE as well. That means our hearts. We have to BE what we want the rest of the world to BE. Does that make sense?

We can't just say whatever we feel like saying and then leave it up to some magical "being" outside of our self to make it all come out right. We have to take RESPONSIBILITY for expressing God/Allah correctly. And that means doing it with nothing but Love and respect for not only ourselves but for EVERYONE around us. Do you like trying to guess at what people are saying? I'll bet not. So then you shouldn't expect other people to guess at what you are saying either. And you can't just say "Oh well, Allah must not want them to understand." That's not fair to Allah. Allah gave us the intelligence and the patience to choose our words wisely - if we don't, then we are being lazy. It's like you said, "... anything that is good in this world is hard work, bad is easy." We can't take the "easy" way out. We have to do the "hard" work and WORK at expressing ourselves in ways that others can understand.

I'll leave you with your own thought, "It's all up to us as individuals as to what we want and what we do about it." What do you really want?

100 Alison:

I like the things you said in your last comment. It seemed clear to understand. I agree with what you are saying too. But there is something I understand differently... I think people are wrong for trying to please God as if God were something outside of us. Do you know what I mean?

God isn't outside of us. There isn't anything to "please" on the outside of us, other than other people. This is where I think so many religions have it "wrong". They paint a picture of there being some person type of God who is separate from us that can point a finger and make some sort of magic happen. I don't agree with that. I see it as a very wrong concept.

I see God as being a PART of us - not separate from us. We choose to express God or we choose not to express God. Period. No magic. We're in control of it. God is something to be expressed - not seen as if God were a separate being apart from us. This is why "no one has ever SEEN God". The closest anyone can come to "seeing" God as a separate being from us is to "see" God in a flower, a bird or in the eyes of a child kind of thing. It's LOVE, beauty, care, principle, harmony etc... There are 7 synonyms used in the Bible to describe God, and they are: Life, Love, Truth, Mind, Soul, Principle, Spirit... none of which are TANGIBLE "things" or "beings". God is not material. So to even try to "win God's attention" as if God were separate from us is silly. We're not in "competition" with each other - we ARE each other!

But I think you're right - what you said IS what people are thinking - but I know all the way down in my heart that they are wrong and that's why all of their efforts to "win God's attention" don't work It just ends in disaster. So we have to help in anyway we can to help people understand that trying to "win God's attention" isn't even going to work in the first place. We have to express God in order to know God.

101 I think Jill was expressing God with her work in Iraq. That's the hope that I hang onto that she will be fine.

102 Are you going to let him get away with that gramma?

103 No!

Right turn Clyde!

104 No!

Right turn, Clyde!

105 What In The Blue Hell Was That???

106 lol

107 Anybody got $10 bucks I could borrow?