December 22, 2006

Al-Qaeda : Kill The Cross Worshippers On Christmas(UPDATED)

ABCNEWS is reporting that al-Qaeda hopes to murder British civilians over Fordham.edChristmas.

ABC's The Blotter:ABC News has learned that al Qaeda operatives in the greaterLondon area are being encouraged to "strike during the Christian holidays," according to intelligence and law enforcement sources.

Those sources say that Internet chatter and Web postings monitored by authorities are behind the grave concern of an imminent al Qaeda strike, one that at least some law enforcement officials in Britain fear will again target mass transit.

Some in comments have been giving me a hard time for my characterization of al-Qaeda’s interpretation of Islam as a, “Doctrine of Hate.” They say that Islam respects Christians and to kill one is a great crime under Islam. al-Qaeda disagrees with this and repeatedly quotes the Koran and calls Christians Crusaders and Cross Worshippers and praises Allah for the opportunity to kill them. It seems they are able to find plenty of people who agree with them.

See the following from al-Qaeda in Iraq’s press release site.

A sniper attack at one of the cross worshipers in al-Tamim quarter region on Friday November 24, 2006, all praise and gratitude be to Allah.

A sniper attack at one of the cross worshipers near al-Falluja on Saturday November 25, 2006, all praise and gratitude be to Allah.

Killing five soldiers and wounding five others from the Cross worshipers and destroying two of their vehicles, by detonating two bombs in al-Aadheem region, on Monday November 13, 2006, all praise and gratitude be to Allah.

Perhaps if you worship the secular you might make this argument. That to fail to recognize Islam is against our founding principals. They claim that to fail to accept Islam is bigotry not religious opinion. They say that if you are a Christian or Jew who believes Islam is a false doctrine then you are a bigot.
Jefferson Via Dailykos: Whereas Almighty God hath created the mind free; that all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations, tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and are a departure from the plan of the Holy author of our religion, who being Lord both of body and mind, yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his almighty power to do; that the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others.

Be it enacted by the General assembly, that no man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burthened in his body or goods, not shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief; but that all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion, that that the same shall in no wise diminish, enlarge, or affect their civil capacities.

But this description is quite damning of Islam, which proscribes public discrimination on the basis of religion. This Islamic judgment was written in 1788 about the same time Jefferson wrote the above quote.
Fordham.edu: The decision given by the Shaikh ar-Ramli [a great Cairo legal authority, d. 1596], by the Shaikh al-Islam [the Muslim religious authority in Constantinople], and by the learned scholars whose decrees can hardly be written down here, may be worded as follows: "It is forbidden to the tolerated peoples living on Muslim territory to clothe themselves in the same manner as the chiefs, the scholars, and the nobles. They should not be allowed to clothe themselves in costly fabrics which have been cut in the modes which are forbidden to them, in order that they may not offend the sensibilities of poor Muslims and in order that their faith in their religion should not be shaken by this. [Poor Muslims may regret their faith when they see how well-dressed the Christians and Jews are.]

"They should not be permitted to employ mounts like the Muslims. They must use neither saddles, nor iron-stirrups, in order to be distinguished from the true believers. They must under no circumstance ride horses because of the noble character of this animal. The Most-High has said [Qu'ran 8:62]: 'And through powerful squadrons [of horses] through which you will strike terror into your own and God's enemies.' [A verse of the Qu'ran makes a good support for a law. Verses may even be torn out of their context.]

"They should not be permitted to take Muslims into their service because God has glorified the people of Islam. He has given them His aid and has given them a guarantee by these words [Qu'ran 3:140]: 'Surely God will never give preeminence to unbelievers over the true believers.' Now this is just what is happening today, for their servants are Muslims taken from among men of a mature age or from those who are still young. This is one of the greatest scandals to which the guardians of authority must put an end. It is wrong to greet them even with a simple 'how-do-you-do'; to serve them, even for wages, at the baths or in what relates to their riding animals; and it is forbidden to accept anything from their hand, for that would be an act of debasement by the faithful. They are forbidden while going through the streets to ape the manners of the Muslims, and still less those of the cities of the religion. They shall only walk single-file, and in narrow lanes they must withdraw even more into the most cramped part of the road.

"One may read that which follows in Bukhari and Muslim [religious authorities of the ninth century]: 'Jews and Christians shall never begin a greeting; if you encounter one of them on the road, push him into the narrowest and tightest spot.' The absence of every mark of consideration toward them is obligatory for us; we ought never to give them the place of honor in an assembly when a Muslim is present. This is in order to humble them and to honor the true believers.

At the very moment that Jefferson was prescribing religious freedom Islamic scholars were prescribing discrimination against those outside Islam. Ironic isn't it?

This Shiite man was murdered exrtra slowly in the name of God for insulting Aisha, Mohammed’s child bride. The Irony is he believed that murdering Sunnis in the name of God was his duty.

Jesus said:

All this I have told you so that you will not go astray. They will put you out of the synagogue; in fact, a time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God. They will do such things because they have not known the Father or me. I have told you this, so that when the time comes you will remember that I warned you.
Any questions? ROPMA.

Bluto posted yesterday on British officials are concerned about attacks over Christmas.

Update:

I guess what I’m trying to say here is it’s always been this way. There have always been men trying to justify murder in the name of God. Men who use religion not as a means to seek god but a was to seek power.

I’ve spent some time using the assumption that Muhammad was a good man and looked to see what injustice he may have been fighting against. One of the things may have been the organized perversion of religion.

The Jewish leaders killed Jesus for blasphemy, for being an apostate in their eyes. Soon afterward, the church twisted his message and began murdering in his name. Now there is an irony for you. People murdering in Jesus name. But over time this could not stand in light of what Jesus taught.

When I look at the Koran and Islam I see several things. I see Muslims who are good people. They are pious and modest and would not hurt a fly. They obviously are the majority. I predict there will be some on this thread telling me how Islam instructs them to respect the teachings of the other scriptures. If this is the true doctrine I have no problem with that. If combined with the Koran they probably have a solid foundation. You can see it in their actions.

But I’ve also seen another side of Islam. The perverted side if you will. These are the ones who rather than serve the religion make their religion serve them. You see it in the intolerant regimes of the ME. They do not allow free worship. They murder in God’s name for a variety of crimes. But there is also the smaller groups the al-Qaeda’s, Ansar al-Sunnah, Hamas and Hezbollah. Groups of every sect have taken it upon themselves the murder in God’s name. Thus fulfilling Jesus’ prophecy.

So that is another great Irony. Muhammad said there is no intermediary between God and man. Yet there they are, presuming to do God’s will by murdering in his name. Poisoning and defacing Islam to all that look upon it. Including the majority of Muslims who know very well it is wrong and sinful. Placing huge roadblocks between those who should be brothers.

If Christians still executed people in the name of God. If Christians still forced conversions or treated those of other religions unfairly, the cries of injustice would be deafening. Every Christian and Muslim would protest until this perverted injustice ended!

But now we are facing another perversion of God’s will. One that costs many lives Christian, Muslim, Jewish and others. Many schools teach young people the entire Koran but also infuse a doctrine of hate. Tell me why the other scriptures, if they are holy as is stated in the Koran, are not also taught? If Jesus is a prophet of Islam why is his teaching allowed to be overlooked by so many?

I believe that a Muslim who honestly seeks God, respects and follows Jesus teaching can find grace through him. I want Islam to be respected. I want to have peace with Muslim nations. I want to help those who suffer under the perversion of faiths to have a better life.

Muslims must stand up and reject the “Doctrine of Hate” as the heresy it obviously is. We cannot impose a solution upon you. We can help you, we can stand beside you if you want.

These heretics and apostates murderous view of Islam is against all I know to be right. They cannot be allowed to win. They must be placed in the dustbin of history as surely as all the other Doctrines of Hate that came before. As long as they exist I cannot help but be suspect of Islam as a faith or political system. As surely as the inquisition and all the murders in the name of God throughout history were wrong, so must be the terrorist’s interpretation of Islam.

They attack us so we must defend ourselves as best we can. They also attack and kill many more Muslims. That is one of the things that have bothered me the last year. Snuff films of westerners have become rare. But snuff films of terrorists murdering Muslim hostages are now very common. I watch these and I see human beings. Many are just ordinary people trying to make a living. I see them killed and dumped like trash. My hearts is touched. They are just as much victims of this doctrine of hate as the people at the WTC or Paul Johnson. There were all murdered with the shout of, “ Allahu Akbar!”

May God help us all.

Posted by: Howie at 01:45 PM | Comments (9) | Add Comment
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1 I Leatherneck, the Greatest of All Barbaric Christian Infidels, does not worship the cross. I worship G-d the Father in Christ name who died on the cross for humans sin and rose from the dead. How many times do I have to tell these moon god worshippers?

Merry Christmas.

Posted by: Leatherneck at December 22, 2006 02:33 PM (ZOc4K)

2 I say bring it on. Nothing would give me more pleasure than jumping a suicide bomber and handing him over to the police knowing that he will live the rest of his life in a cell. I would come visit him to rub it in too.

Posted by: Joe at December 22, 2006 07:08 PM (PWN6U)

3 You would hand it over Joe? I would take it home and have weeks of fun with it before I put it out of its misery by stuffing a hog carcass down its throat while taking a shit on a koran all while telling him about my friends...
 
Jesse Beamon
Jimmy Cain
Jim Faulk
Bill Foster
Joe Milano
Dave Worley
 
and many others.
 
This is of course because it is the Holiday season and I'm feeling kind..

Posted by: Max Power at December 22, 2006 08:48 PM (PM8kH)

4 An amazing, and seasonally appropriate posting, especially updated like it was. Thanks Howie!

For the record, a cross is just two sticks fastened together.

We are not celebrating a cross this weekend, but Christ.

It will be OK.

Share your goodwill and affection for your fellow human beings. Have a little mercy for those who don't know peace, God loves them also. Jesus died for Osama bin Laden along with the rest. I know, it freaks me out a bit too. But didn't he?

It is Ok to pray for the impossible. For a miracle. In our gut, we crave revenge on Osama, but we are cleaner if we take a minute at least once, and pray for his redemption. If a miracle doesn't happen, then we get back to trying to kill him. It isn't like we didn't at least give him a chance first.

For the Atheists, please don't laugh. I wasn't joking, and so what if it seems impossible? Life is impossible. It really is one of the great things about Christianity, and I think it beats wasting money on lottery tickets.

And like I said, we can still keep trying to kill him if the miracle doesn't happen.

So my answer to Al Qaeda's death wish for us, is a prayer for the redemption of the lot of them. It does me no harm, and who knows that at least one of them might not change. Its Christmas time, and thats what I'm giving them for Christmas. A chance.

Merry Christmas, and God bless the USA, all the way!

Posted by: Michael Weaver at December 22, 2006 09:11 PM (2OHpj)

5 I’ve spent some time using the assumption that Muhammad was a good man and looked to see what injustice he may have been fighting against.

Then you've spent far too much time being dead wrong, Howie. Mohammed was a very evil, vile, perverse, violent, pernicious man. That is historical FACT, not dogma.

Poisoning and defacing Islam to all that look upon it.

Islam itself is, down to its very core, a poison.

I want Islam to be respected.

No, you don't. You only say that because you know not whereof you speak. Study Islam. Read the Koran, Hadith, and Sira for yourself. Your eyes will not deceive you.

I want to have peace with Muslim nations.

Not possible. They do not want peace with you. Your only peace with Muslims will be upon your conversion. Covert or die, infidel.

Muslims must stand up and reject the “Doctrine of Hate” as the heresy it obviously is.

Islam is a cult of death. Hate oozes from the Koran. Hate, violence, and death are the foundations of Islam - it is not heresy.

You sound very sweet and earnest, Howie. There are many well-meaning people like you, who believe that Islam is, at heart, a peaceful religion and the majority of Muslims are held hostage by a few crazies. That is the taquiyya - and you have been duly deceived.

Islam has not been hi-jacked by terrorists. Mohammed was a terrorist, and terrorism is the national culmination of totalitarianism. So let me share a little crucial info that may help you in your understanding of Islam. And then follow my earlier advice and read the Koran yourself. It's an eye-opener, and one I think you need.

Posted by: Redhead Infidel at December 22, 2006 10:28 PM (IBImD)

6 I don't worship a cross. I worship He who died on the cross and who gave His life and paid for my sins so that I may have eternity with God. I don't face a cross every time I want to pray to God. I have a tattoo of a cross with Jesus written on it, not for other's sake (although I do enjoy the look on Muslim's faces when they see it!) but as a reminder to myself when I look at it that my life is not my own and it was paid for with a great price. The New Testament (Injil for Muslims) never told us to worship a cross.

Muslims on the other hand, are supposed to face a cube called the Kabah, containing a meteorite, in the Saudi desert, when praying five times a day. This cube is site of previous moon god and pagan worship, repackaged and redefined to become a  monotheistic cult that still continues today under the name Islam. The proof is on the top of every mosque and minaret in the world. What do you see? A crescent moon, the symbol of Hubal (Allah, al-Ilah or whatever you want to call it). The crescent moon symbol that has been the symbol of pagan moon god worshiping in Arabia since around 2000 BC. Muslim Hajj pilgrims are just about ready to begin their pagan rituals now that were performed by pagan Arabs and incorporated into Islam by Muhammad.

Posted by: Big White Infidel at December 22, 2006 11:00 PM (JVaBk)

7 Yeah Michael, I agree with you, even though sometimes I'm not the greatest poster child for being a Christian. Looking at hot chicks with lust (Jesus called it spiritual adultery), not turning the other cheek, swearing, hate at times towards Muslims and now the Hindu BJP in India for what they are doing to Christians there and for trying to have me arrested on trumped up charges a few weeks ago in Chennai for proselytizing when I was only calling them assholes to their faces for attacking Christians and so on. But God still uses me in spite of my disobedience and lack of maturity in becoming more Christ-like.

Unfortunately for almost all Muslims, they are born into this death cult and never got a chance to decide whether they actually want to be a Muslim. Those that choose not to are brandished as apostates and either shunned or killed by other Muslims. My friend Ratih was born into a Muslim family but converted to Christianity and married a Christian. Her family disowned her. She went back to her family to try to mend things, hoping that her parents would see their new grandson and soften their hearts but the parents spit on her and their grandson and threatened to kill her.

You're right, God loves Muslims just as much as He loves anyone else. He sent His Son to die on the cross for everyone. And as much as we hurt Him with our actions, some of us more than others, God knows us and despite all our faults still chooses us. It's up to us whether we want to choose Him and know Him.

Posted by: Big White Infidel at December 22, 2006 11:26 PM (JVaBk)

8 Howie:


Muslims don't try to justify murder in the name of their religion, they try to justify their religion through murder.


Genocide is an integral part of islam.


Wake up, man.

Posted by: Jeff Bargholz at December 24, 2006 01:21 AM (abVz3)

9 Al Qaeda attack on Britain Imminent; Miracle If There Isn't One


http://www.crusade-media.com/news36.html

Posted by: Alan Clerkin at December 25, 2006 10:01 AM (biXY2)

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