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March 26, 2006

Abdul Rahman May be Freed

To follow up on Blutos earlier post, CNN is flying a banner this morning(story up) saying western diplomats expect Rahman will be released today. However they are also reporting that Rahman has been moved to Prison. And pope Pope Benedict XVI has formally requested his release. My concern is both that he may be executed and if not his safety upon release. Muslim clerics have called for the people to quote, â€œPull him into pieces!â€. Rahman remains steadfast in his faith.

Rahman told the Rome daily La Repubblica Via CNN :"I am serene. I have full awareness of what I have chosen. If I must die, I will die, Somebody a long time ago did it for all of us.â€

Many nations, Christian and Secular have done much for the Muslims in Afghanistan. Your freedom is our cause. As your friends we have seen and taken pity on this man. As a favor and gesture of goodwill I ask that you ensure his safety and free transport to exile to Rome. Deport him if you do not desire his presence and surely his children should be with their Father. Iâ€™ve heard quotes from Afghanistan like this one.

Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.
Eugene Volokh Add this:
This is telling evidence, it seems to me, that there is something very wrong in Islam today, and not just in some lunatic terrorist fringe. Doubtless many, I would hope most, Muslims would not endorse executing converts.

Christians are and have been very good brothers to the people of Afghanistan? Why then do you forbid us in your nation? Brothers should stand close to one another and sometimes correct the other. We hear your complaints and are trying to help. Now we ask the same from you.

I pray for Adbdul Rahmanâ€™s safe release. Iâ€™m not Catholic but I appreciate the work they are doing. Their help gives me some hope. They have a good track record in these things.

Update : ABCNEWS is reporting the case has been dismissed due to "problems" with the evidence. and Rahman will be relased soon.

Others: Michelle Malkin, Captain's Quarters, Jihad Watch and The Anchoress. If you look at religions each as maturing one year per century kind of like dog years = 7 human that makes Christianity 21 and Islam 16. Look little bother we love you and all. You know itâ€™s our commitment to respect all men without regard for his faith. Today breaking news as ABCNEWS throws a pillow at the subject. Hey at least they see there is a Subject.

Hooper of CAIR via ABC because they had too becuase the hadn't yet: All we can do is present an accurate face of Islam to the public." The Koran does not specify the death penalty for people who convert, but it does call conversion a criminal sin. It is up to the interpretation of clerics and judges to decide whether the punishment should be execution.
Hooper sees this as a crucial distinction. "Obviously we don't think it's a good thing to leave Islam. But judgment is left to God in the next life, not up to people in this life.â€

Well you have best tell that these people that and hurry. We are willing to help our little brother and correct him and yes if we have to slap him right up side the head and knock some sense into him. Were sorry about that little brother but you needed it.

Posted by: Howie at 08:43 AM | Comments (39) | Add Comment
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1 >>>>"I am serene. I have full awareness of what I have chosen. If I must die, I will die, Somebody a long time ago did it for all of us.â€

Can anybody spot the difference between a christian martyr vs a muslim one? A christian martyr DIES for this faith, while a muslim one KILLS for his.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 10:02 AM (8e/V4)

2 His release amounts to nothing more than a death sentence. Unless he is allowed refuge in another nation, he will be killed by the public.

Posted by: The Gentle Cricket at March 26, 2006 10:32 AM (USZUJ)

3 Check out this 5 minute CNN tape.
The 9-11 Truth Movement has exploded on CNN.
Thousands of people are emailing CNN in approval.
In CNNâ€™s poll, which asks if you believe the
government was involved in 9-11, 67% say yes. Even I
am surprised.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 11:29 AM (q5wwn)

4 greg,

do you have a link for that CNN poll? I will believe it when I see it.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:40 AM (8e/V4)

5 Carlos,
The poll is mentioned in the link I already provided.

The actual poll is at:
http://www.cnn.com/C NN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
(Take OUt Spaces)

It is now up to 82%!
Believe, my brotha.

Best,
Greg

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 11:45 AM (q5wwn)

6 Carlos,
The poll is mentioned in the link I already provided.

The actual poll is at:
http://www.cnn.com /CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight/
(Take OUt Spaces)

It is now up to 82%!
Believe, my brotha.

Best,
Greg

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 11:47 AM (q5wwn)

7 greg,

page not found. They pulled it?

Means that CNN is probably embarrassed that all the loons suddenly appeared out of the woodwork and is going to kill their rating amongst regular folks.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:50 AM (8e/V4)

8 Never mind. I found it.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:52 AM (8e/V4)

9 Notice how the poll question is worded for maximum deceptive results.

Charlie Sheen and conspiracy theorists claim the government actually COMMITTED the attack.

But the poll asks an entirely different question-- whether they believe the government "covered up" the real events.

Two different issues, yet the conspiracists try to use the latter to support the former. Even a child can see whats going on here. Conspiracy theorists (and CNN) is guilty of deception.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 11:57 AM (8e/V4)

10 Greg, you do realise that, assuming that only US citizens voted, approximately 0.014% of the population agrees with Charlie Sheen. The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.

Posted by: Graeme at March 26, 2006 12:00 PM (VwhTY)

11 >>>>The results become even more irrelevant if one assumes that the poll is international.

Good point.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 12:11 PM (8e/V4)

12 Still hijacking threads, eh Greg?

Posted by: Oyster at March 26, 2006 12:21 PM (YudAC)

13 Belittle the poll all you want.

We-sa-comin-ta-gitcha!

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 12:45 PM (q5wwn)

14 Graeme,
Do you realize that presidential polls have an n=1000 or less.

This poll has an n>=50,000

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 12:54 PM (q5wwn)

15 There does seem to be a problem with the link to the poll that I provided.

I believe this is a good link...

http://www.cnn.com/ CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight(Take Out Spaces)

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 01:03 PM (q5wwn)

16 Is it possible a factor that may need to be considered is the number of times Greg has voted?

Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 01:15 PM (D3+20)

17 >>>>the number of times Greg has voted?

lol! vote. delete cookies. vote. delete cookies. repeat process all afternoon.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 01:17 PM (8e/V4)

18 http://www.cnn.com/%20CNN/Programs/showbiz.tonight

Fuck! TAKE OUT THE "%20"

I don't know where it comes from.

Howie,
My brotha.
You raise a good point, not about me voting, but about your side voting.
The right wing blogs want to ignore this story and consequently your side isn't participating in the poll.
Serves you right.

Posted by: greg at March 26, 2006 01:18 PM (q5wwn)

19 If I vote will that make you happy?

Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 01:22 PM (D3+20)

20 Greg,

that poll, properly worded to reflect what moonbat Sheen ACTUALLY said, wouldn't reflect those numbers and you know it.

Then put the poll on Fox instead of CNN and fuggedaboutit. CNN gets a fraction of the hits the Fox does.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 01:22 PM (8e/V4)

21 How do you get a liberal to leave your property?

Pay him for the pizza.

Posted by: Improbulus Maximus at March 26, 2006 01:27 PM (0yYS2)

22 Howie,
What would make me happy is if you'd watch the CNN feed at:
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/sheen_alex_jones_showbiz_tonight_video.htm

and if Rusty would take off all of these silly filters. My gosh, look how much trouble it is to link to C N N on the Jawa Report. Same for the B B C.

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 01:49 PM (q5wwn)

23 Greg: They're probably PixyMisa's filters? the comment script is on blog.mu.nu not jawa.

Greg I could write code in under 10 minutes that would click that vote all day, and someone probably did. Every conference I go to, I see to meet some moonbat programmer who thinks we're in the Matrix, or that Roswell space alien technology is being harnessed in the U.S technology race.

Re: subject

Via The Volokh Consiracy : "According to Islamic law he should be sentenced to death because God has clearly stated that Christianity is forbidden in our land," says Mohammed Qadir, another worshipper.

This guy does realise Afghanistan wasn't Muslim land until ROP raiders came across, and killed everyone in their wake right?

Posted by: davec at March 26, 2006 02:14 PM (CcXvt)

24 Dave: That's the mindset. Anything before their appearance doesn't count. Once they step in, their laws and beliefs supercede everything. Anything before that is discounted as illegitimate and doesn't even merit discussion. The only time even biblical history is brought up it's twisted and bastardized to lay a false foundation for their own beliefs. The final answer to everything is that it's Allah's will. When they get boxed into a corner, that's always the answer. That's the signal that the discussion is over.

Posted by: Oyster at March 26, 2006 02:41 PM (YudAC)

25 He should be freed no one should be pursicuted for becoming a christain and by the way they still persicte christains in CHINA and CUBA and probibly NORTH KOREA thats what the ACLU dose here in this country

Posted by: sandpiper at March 26, 2006 02:55 PM (slksM)

26 Davec,
The 9-11 Truth Movement is going to be part of American lore, at a minimum.
It's entirely possible that there will be convictions if this gets out of hand.
The right ignores this issue at its own peril. "The worm has turned".

To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 02:58 PM (q5wwn)

27 >>>>To be fair. The OKC bombing that occurred under Clinton was also covered up as was the first WTC bombing.

So explain that. What is the pattern? Are you saying Clinton blew up the Murrah building? And for what purpose. And how does that tie into 9/11. Pattern, please. Or else it's just random synapse firing by conspiracy kooks.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 03:10 PM (8e/V4)

28 Carlos,
At the time the government was very worried about militia.
Since the bombing, militia have lost strength.
The OKC bombing was probably an entrapment psyop.
The reports of John Doe being of middle eastern origin is significant.
After the first gulf war hundreds of Iraqi military were repatriated to OKC.
The goverment has never shown us the security film which would identify John Doe as a coconspirator of McVeigh.

The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 03:33 PM (q5wwn)

29 Where does Karl Rove's earthquake generator, mounted on the nose of the space shuttle fit in?

Posted by: davec at March 26, 2006 03:40 PM (CcXvt)

30 Oyster,

As usual you make an excellent point. I just finished reading a History of India, and I can tell you that the barbarity inflicted on the Hindus and Buddists by Islam is without any compare, except perhaps the slaughter of Jews and Slavs by the Nazis. And even the Nazis could not accomplish what Islam did to India, where upwards of 80 million people were slaughtered. A mountain range in Afghanistan, the Hindu Kush, which means Hindu slaughter, was named after events that took place here.

And you are right again, oyster, because Afghanistan was controlled by Hindus and Buddists before the Muslims came. Mahmud of Ghazni led seventeen expeditions into India over a 27 year period that was nothing more than a slaughter. All in the name of Islam.

Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 03:59 PM (rUyw4)

31 Greg: I will watch the feed when I have the pipes for it. I'll vote to. I reckon there is some detail they may have left out or be "suppressing". Or maybe not I'll decide tomorrow. Now you guys greg is excited let's be happy for him. I suppose as long a Greg is proud of it that's all that matters right Greg.

Posted by: Howie at March 26, 2006 05:53 PM (D3+20)

32 Amen Brotha,
Every dog has his day.
As things develop, I'll make sure the Jawa community hears about it.

Posted by: Greg at March 26, 2006 06:33 PM (q5wwn)

33 Gee, thanks, Greg, you are a true humanitarian.

Posted by: jesusland joe at March 26, 2006 08:15 PM (rUyw4)

34 >>>>The pattern is to cause false flag operations to herd the masses politically. It's not a Republican thing, both parties do it.

greg,

sorry, that's too monstrous to accept based just on questionable circumstantial evidence and speculative conclusions.

Posted by: Jesusland Carlos at March 26, 2006 09:17 PM (M3nr/)

35 Gee Greg. If this is a matter of such magnitude you owe it to the world to start a blog insted of limiting this dire information to us measley few. Oh, wait .... no one will read it, you say? Well, you've a point there. Better to hijack threads and preach to a captive audience than get rejected by the masses with no hits to your counter, eh?

Posted by: Oyster at March 27, 2006 10:31 AM (V9juS)

36 Poll gone looking for video. And yes greg should start a blog. I think it would do OK. Heck I'll even read it.

www.blogger.com/start

Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:25 AM (D3+20)

37 Greg send it to me video site too slow today.

Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 11:39 AM (D3+20)

38 Howie,
The story has probably been spiked by now.
I'm at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton until Thursday presenting my research.
When I get back to Austin I'll try and find an archived copy for you.
Best,
Greg

Posted by: Greg at March 27, 2006 05:20 PM (bmKg3)

39 I could see the site you posted. Looks like they have it just too slow. I'll try again tomorrow.

Posted by: Howie at March 27, 2006 08:17 PM (D3+20)

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